A NATO Country Just Shot Down a Russian Bomber: It’s Time to Start Paying Attention

November 24, 2015   |   Dan Sanchez

Dan Sanchez
November 24, 2015

(ANTIMEDIA) A Turkish fighter plane shot down a Russian bomber near the Syria-Turkey border early this morning. Turkey claims the Russian aircraft violated its airspace, while Russia claims it was flying over Syria. Oddly enough, both claims could conceivably be simultaneously true in a sense, but only because Turkey has infringed on Syrian sovereignty by extending its airspace five miles over Syrian territory.

The pilots were able to eject and begin parachuting down, but they were executed in mid-air by gunfire from fighters on the ground. The fighters were insurgents who have been battling the Syrian regime of Bashar al-Assad in a war that has been raging since 2011. A video has emerged showing insurgents standing over one of the dead Russian pilots.

A Russian helicopter searching for the downed pilots was also shot down, possibly with a U.S.-supplied anti-tank missile.

Turkey is a member of NATO, which means if it enters a war with Russia, it can drag the United States and most of Europe along with it. Such a war could rapidly go nuclear. In October, NATO Secretary-General Jens Stollenberg vowed military support if Turkey went to war with Russia.

Turkey is part of a U.S.-led coalition that has been training, financing, and arming the insurgents trying to overthrow Assad. Syrian regime change is official U.S.policy. That coalition also includes the U.K., France, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and others. Israel has bombed the Syrian military directly. The insurgency those powers are supporting is dominated by radical Islamist mujahideen militias, including ISIS, Al Nusra (the Syrian branch of Al Qaeda), and others.

The U.S. and several of its allies (including France) have been bombing purported ISIS targets for over a year while continuing to back ISIS’ fellow insurgents.

Recently, Russia began bombing insurgents in Syria in order to save the Assad regime from overthrow, and also in order to weaken or destroy ISIS, Syrian Al Qaeda, and other terrorist threats. Forces from Iran and Iraq, as well as the militia Hezbollah, are also fighting in support of the regime.

Russia has accused the U.S. of not being serious about eliminating ISIS. Russia has also accused Turkey of directly supporting ISIS. The U.S. has long seemed more preoccupied with overthrowing ISIS’s enemy, the secular dictator Assad. And Turkey has seemed more preoccupied with its war against Kurdish militias also fighting ISIS. The U.S., for its part, has accused Russia of being too preoccupied with saving Assad to focus enough on battling ISIS.

All parties in this war have killed many civilians. Members of Syria’s many religious minorities are terrified that if the Assad regime falls, the extremist, theocratic, and intolerant Sunni militias (including ISIS and Syrian Al Qaeda) will perpetrate religious pogroms and mass executions all throughout the country.

For years, the group now known as ISIS was moribund and marginalized. After it crossed over from Iraq into Syria to join the U.S.-sponsored insurgency in 2011, it rapidly grew in strength. In 2014, it returned to Iraq, conquering the north-west of the country down to Baghdad. It joined its Syrian and Iraqi conquests together, declaring a “Caliphate.” A recently disclosed Pentagon intelligence report indicates that U.S. planners anticipated the establishment of such a “Salafist Principality” as a likely outcome of support for the Syrian insurgency.

ISIS has recently launched several terrorist attacks, including bombing a marketplace in Beirut, taking down a Russian airliner, and perpetrating multiple simultaneous attacks in Paris.

For full coverage of the Turkish-Russian incident, see Antiwar.com.

For more analysis on the incident, see this article on Zero Hedge: Turkish F-16 Shoots Down Russian Su-24 Warplane Near Syria Border

For more on Turkey’s regional interests, see this essay: Behind Washington’s ‘Crackpot’ Deal with Turkey to Fight ISIS

And for background on Syria and the Middle East in general, see these essays by this writer:


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Author: Dan Sanchez

Dan Sanchez began contributing to Anti-Media as an independent journalist in August of 2015. His topics of interest include anti-imperialism, economic education, libertarian philosophy, peaceful parenting, and police accountability. He currently resides in Auburn, Alabama. You can find his work on DanSanchez.me. 

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  1. Or nato is the protector. I not saying g turkey should have downed theplane, but Russia is an aggressor. With no coordination with everyone else mistakes are bound to happen.when Americans accidentally killed canadian troops in Afghanistan canada didn't threaten war. Russian needs to be taken down a few notches, we just have to be careful because of the nukes.

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  2. For someone exhorting us to pay attention, it must have slipped past you that Turkey IS NOT helping the rebels fighting Assad, they are fighting the rebels, and helping Assad. They are not on our side in that conflict, they are arming Isis and funding them by buying their oil. There is no benifit in coming toTurkey's aid, they are not our ally in that conflict.

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  3. Typical Greek comment. Your nations broke and can't even pay for the fuel your planes use lol

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  4. Listen Greek bitch. If you don't shut the fuck up the Turks will have to rule you for another 700 years

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  5. I'm confused. Is this a second plane? Reports I read earlier indicated that one of the pilots had been captured and the other was being hunted. And it didn't say that the plane was a bomber.

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  6. That is completely incoherent. Assad is the enemy of daesh, he's fighting them as a secularist and to stay in power. I don't like Assad or the Turkish government, but neither are assisting daesh, if they were, Turkey wouldn't be letting the US bomb daesh from Turkish airbases… Don't even get me started on Russia, where almost all of their bombings have been against the non daesh rebels, to protect Assad… I think you need to read into what's actually happening there pal.

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  7. That is completely incoherent. Assad is the enemy of daesh, he's fighting them as a secularist and to stay in power. I don't like Assad or the Turkish government, but neither are assisting daesh, if they were, Turkey wouldn't be letting the US bomb daesh from Turkish airbases… Don't even get me started on Russia, where almost all of their bombings have been against the non daesh rebels, to protect Assad… I think you need to read into what's actually happening there pal.

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  8. That is completely incoherent. Assad is the enemy of daesh, he's fighting them as a secularist and to stay in power. I don't like Assad or the Turkish government, but neither are assisting daesh, if they were, Turkey wouldn't be letting the US bomb daesh from Turkish airbases… Don't even get me started on Russia, where almost all of their bombings have been against the non daesh rebels, to protect Assad… I think you need to read into what's actually happening there pal.

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  9. That is completely incoherent. Assad is the enemy of daesh, he's fighting them as a secularist and to stay in power. I don't like Assad or the Turkish government, but neither are assisting daesh, if they were, Turkey wouldn't be letting the US bomb daesh from Turkish airbases… Don't even get me started on Russia, where almost all of their bombings have been against the non daesh rebels, to protect Assad… I think you need to read into what's actually happening there pal.

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  10. That is completely incoherent. Assad is the enemy of daesh, he's fighting them as a secularist and to stay in power. I don't like Assad or the Turkish government, but neither are assisting daesh, if they were, Turkey wouldn't be letting the US bomb daesh from Turkish airbases… Don't even get me started on Russia, where almost all of their bombings have been against the non daesh rebels, to protect Assad… I think you need to read into what's actually happening there pal.

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  11. That is completely incoherent. Assad is the enemy of daesh, he's fighting them as a secularist and to stay in power. I don't like Assad or the Turkish government, but neither are assisting daesh, if they were, Turkey wouldn't be letting the US bomb daesh from Turkish airbases… Don't even get me started on Russia, where almost all of their bombings have been against the non daesh rebels, to protect Assad… I think you need to read into what's actually happening there pal.

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  12. That is completely incoherent. Assad is the enemy of daesh, he's fighting them as a secularist and to stay in power. I don't like Assad or the Turkish government, but neither are assisting daesh, if they were, Turkey wouldn't be letting the US bomb daesh from Turkish airbases… Don't even get me started on Russia, where almost all of their bombings have been against the non daesh rebels, to protect Assad… I think you need to read into what's actually happening there pal.

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  13. That is completely incoherent. Assad is the enemy of daesh, he's fighting them as a secularist and to stay in power. I don't like Assad or the Turkish government, but neither are assisting daesh, if they were, Turkey wouldn't be letting the US bomb daesh from Turkish airbases… Don't even get me started on Russia, where almost all of their bombings have been against the non daesh rebels, to protect Assad… I think you need to read into what's actually happening there pal.

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  14. That is completely incoherent. Assad is the enemy of daesh, he's fighting them as a secularist and to stay in power. I don't like Assad or the Turkish government, but neither are assisting daesh, if they were, Turkey wouldn't be letting the US bomb daesh from Turkish airbases… Don't even get me started on Russia, where almost all of their bombings have been against the non daesh rebels, to protect Assad… I think you need to read into what's actually happening there pal.

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  15. That is completely incoherent. Assad is the enemy of daesh, he's fighting them as a secularist and to stay in power. I don't like Assad or the Turkish government, but neither are assisting daesh, if they were, Turkey wouldn't be letting the US bomb daesh from Turkish airbases… Don't even get me started on Russia, where almost all of their bombings have been against the non daesh rebels, to protect Assad… I think you need to read into what's actually happening there pal.

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  16. Ory Isitan , how dare you you Turkish dog , at least we're proud Greeks , never sold ourselves out like you , we're not yes men to the west , not like the Turkish that invaded Cyprus , is the Lap dog of the west , I'd be shitting my self if I was you the Russians are going to make you another arsehole soon .

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  17. This is it, man… the way things are going, we're all fucked! Why pick a side when the world's fucked? We had so many thousands of years to work together and we couldn't even swallow our fucking pride for one goddamn moment… we're on the verge of blowing ourselves into a fucking nuclear grave. Humanity's fuckin' dead.

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  18. Never, ever believe what the government says. George Carlin.

    The war mongers are determined to get their way, no matter what. Everything they say is a lie and so is all the crap spewing out from the media whores, who are the mouthpiece for government propaganda.

    Any way you slice it, shooting down a Russian plane is an act of war and the implications of that should be obvious. If you still don't understand, the ball is in Putin's court.

    My guess is that Putin will let it slide but will rebuke the guilty because Putin is the saner of the whole bunch and will act diplomatically because he doesn't want to fight with the US, who are clearly pushing and provoking him.

    The real threat is that the US will start the next nuclear strike on Russia. Putin knows that the US is waiting for any reason that they can use to provoke a pre-emptive nuclear strike, so he is trying not to over-react.

    I hope I'm wrong but to me, it appears that the US is determined to pick a fight with Russia because they are interfering with the US' neat little plan to take over Syria, install a puppet government, build their pipeline, and let ISIS ride off into the sunset, after having served their purpose.

    Putin is too cagey to be sucked in to that trap. He is calling their bluff, saying yes let's get rid of ISIS and we will help you. But the US is secretly supporting ISIS, even though they denounce them in the press when really they only want to pretend to fight ISIS, so they can steal a sovereign nation and make it safe for Democracy or some of the same usual crap, just so they can run Saudi oil to Europe, the Syrians be damned.

    It is obvious that the entire scam, including ISIS, is a fabrication by the US to demonize everyone and not bother mentioning one little important fact, to wit, that Syria and Turkey are strategic oil pipeline routes for the US (Saudis) and Russia.

    US wants Saudi Oil to go through Turkey to Europe, and Russia wants it to go through Greece from Russia to Europe to China.

    This is so obvious that the US is making a last-ditched attempt to save their precious Petrodollar scam with the Saudis, without which, the entire US financial system will collapse, and are willing to risk everything, including nuclear war, to maintain US dollar hegemony and divert attention away from the fact that the US is bankrupt.

    Syria just happens to be an important strategic junction, and the US will tell whatever lies and demonize whoever they have to, to get support from people stupid enough to believe them.

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  19. Ory Isitan No. The US is broke and without being able to run Saudi oil to Europe through Turkey via Syria, the Petrodollar is in huge trouble, without which, the US will lose its reserve currency status, and have to default on all of its trillions of dollars of bond debt. Oouuch!

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  20. Russia is only helping the US with their stated desire to eliminate ISIS, even though we all know that the US really wants to run a pipeline through Syria.

    How can you say that Russia is the aggressor when the US has been at war with at least one country for 222 years out of the 239 years since it became a nation?

    NSA is the Nazi States of America. Pretty sad when you think of how these psychopaths have convinced the world that they are the last bastion of freedom and that their almighty dollar should be the reserve currency when they have no gold in Fort Kno to back it, and when all they do is take, take, take, lie through their teeth, and kill millions of people to steal oil and keep the wheels of the military-industrial complex running smoothly.

    A machine run by the elites that generates trillions of dollars and benefits only the inner circle, while the economy goes into the ditch and the average lunch bucket starves to death and has to work for McDonalds until they are 85.

    The most egregious feature of this perverse state of affairs, is that the western world is so completely brainwashed and cannot see what is really going on, and they further rally behind this armada of pirates and offer their support and become complicit in mass-murder, for money.

    Which makes you all whores. But it's not our fault, the government lied to us. Bullshit! Any half-wit knows (or should know) that the government always lies, so being duped is no excuse. Snap out of it!

    This entire ISIS thing is just as fake as the global warming scam and only when the rest of the world turns against the US and condemns their perpetual brinkmanship, will their ever be any hope for an end to all this fighting.

    Only God can save us now.

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  21. I think we need to question where Turkeys loyalties lie, before we can move forward

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  22. Ory Isitan Russia might now help the Kurds establish their own independent nation. Carve a big chunk out of Anatolia and kick the Turks out.

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  23. Some good points… I believe people should read into things abit more than just decide on what the mainstream media tells them….always two sides to the story.. And sometimes the person you DON'T want to believe is actually the one telling the truth

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  24. There has been reeleased a video of the helicopter-shooting, in the end of the video the people who shot is down is yelling " Allahu Akbar", so i do not think that it was the U.S that authoriced that one….

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  25. This abomination so called NATO is in fact an mondial criminal organisation built by almighty world wide jewry.Their goal is ZOG.Btw,why don't you tell us something really hidden from history???lol

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  26. Same jet, poor aircraft recognition is to blame for it not being called a bomber.

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  27. Ory Isitan you shuold know there was no turk nation,but rather greek,who became muslim,turks are greek,by the way im macedonian

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  28. Are you a professor at UBC, sir, or a graduate, if I may ask? May I also inquire as to your major field of study? I only ask you these questions, because I see it's easy to find youtube clips that seem to always be ramping folks up to buy heavy/precious metals on the basis of the destruction of the Petro-dollar, and the purported dire consequences for the US economy. Your credentials would, to me, provide a more well-rounded and potentially legitimate case than a group of folks looking to increase their own profit margin. If your's is indeed a well informed position, then why aren't more folks crying out on this subject than just those aforementioned salesmen in a suit? Forgive me if this seems a naive question, but frankly, I am concerned for my family and my country should your outline be correct. Thank you, a concerned NY'er.

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  29. Forgive me, I wasn't aware that I would be so easily able to answer my own questions simply by visiting your fb page. You've definitely clarified the issue. What? Was the mortgage business no longer as successful after '08?

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  30. Russia and Iran are the only foreign nations legally in Syria…in case you didn't know.

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  31. Dan Ghys Assad to date hasn't bombed a single ISIS target. He's clobbering the Kurds…Just thouht you should know.

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  32. At least get basic facts like NAMES right, if you would like your article to convey a semblance of credibility. It's Jens STOLTENBERG, not Stollenberg. 🙂

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  33. Andrew Nichols Syria isn't legally in syria. Asaad breaks International law on the daily.a country should not be allowed to threaten the lives of its people, and still be allowed to continue. The people should be allowed to choose a leader. Living in North America, I can't say what goes on in other countries,but what I hear, and the pictures and video I see, those things happening by isis, by Syrian military, those don't exist on such a scale here. Put in is a dictator in his own country,and in other countries. How about crimea? These are bad men assad and putin, right now, not as threatening as isis, but only because they try to appear innocent, so they can't blatantly bomb without repercussing. I assure you when isis is taken care of, the international community will return it's focus to syria and russia. It's not the people of those countries, just the dictators.

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  35. Andreas, has it not a been established beyond doubt that the US have in fact been directly and inextricably linked to the funding, training and supply of weapons to Free Sryian Army rebel groups, including ISIS ?
    Is it not an established fact that members of one of those same rebel groups shot at the parachuting pilot and navigator as they descended from their burning plane; this in itself a war crime?
    The whole saga of the middle east has become a quag-mire where hidden agendas are seemingly the order of the day and also in effect the common demoninator?

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  36. Derek Pattenden your logic is flawed. How many times has the US broken international law? What were the repercussions? Was the US legally in Iraq? You americans believe you can do whatever you want to and then sit on your high horse and judge the rest of the world. Hypocrite.

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  37. NATO was never built for peace…it was only a conglomeration of power that would make it easier to contain the Soviets.

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  40. Sorry just want to make a correction that the writer had said that both pilots were executed. That is not true . The Russians have rescued one of the pilots and is safe.

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  44. Andrew Nichols Factually you are wrong. Assad is busy fighting various rebel groups, including IS, while Turkey is busy fighting the Kurds. There are hints that the Turks at least passively supported IS at one point (mostly by allowing IS the same unfettered smuggling rights they give the Free Syrian Army) however that support has waned since the IS suicide attack in Turkey last summer. Turkey basically does not care about IS except where it impacts their efforts against the Kurds and Assad.
    Meanwhile, Assad would like nothing better than for the various rebel groups to be caught between him and IS. Assad would love to be able to claim that he is the only domestic force in Syria fighting IS. Thus Assad is fighting IS 'less' than the other groups, just enough to show that he is fighting them, while trying to destroy the other groups first. Should that occur, Assad would then be able to position himself as a de-facto American ally against IS with no other options available. If the US is forced to pick between Assad and IS Assad is betting they will back him. For that to happen the FSA needs to be wiped out though.
    As it is, the biggest group currently fighting IS are the American backed Kurds in the north. The Turks are not happy about that, but they are getting benefits from the Americans for the use of their bases, and frankly have bigger Kurdish groups to deal with in Turkey and northern Iraq. They know that the Syrian Kurds are too busy fighting IS to help the Turkish Kurds fight in Turkey. One last point, the Syrian Kurds are not actually enemies of Assad, but nor are they allies. Both the Kurds and Assad are fighting IS and Turkey (indirectly), but the Kurds don't particularly want to help Assad either.

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  45. Benjamin Brown I think we've already arrived at the decision point in light of Russia's entry into the conflict. Right now, it is essentially a decision between Assad and IS. The rest of what you wrote is pretty spot on, though. I didn't want to go into great detail in my original post. But yeah….this is no simple two sided conflict. It is the proxy war of proxy wars. A veritable Gordian knot of conflicting interests.

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  46. Ronald West According to whom not connected to the fossil fuel industry is global warming a scam?

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  47. Sounds like a good movie plot. Just one problem. Nukes are dirty they contaminate shit, and once one fires everyone decides to fire. Can't win if you're not alive.

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  48. Thank you for your clear assessment of the situation. Keep exposing the truth!

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  49. Wonderful, absolutely great. World War 3 is on its way and its not about peace, saving innocents or fighting terrorism. When the majority of NATO countries supply weapons to countries which supply those like ISIS, WW3 will about power, control and money. But let's be honest, WW3 is already here. And when it comes for calling to the army, more people will be sacrifìced in the name of greed and power. What a wonderful world!!!

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  50. They all have to stop the war and address the root cause is the religions, all religions.

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  51. Hey Derek Pattenden, Russia provided the US with all information regarding where they were going to be operating that day. The US supplied that info to Turkey so that they could set up their little ambush. You are clueless.

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  55. All what is writen here is a BIG LIE.
    FSA (the rebels) are only defending their country, land and family and die every day . they are not Terrorists and they are not with ISIS.
    ISIS ARE MERCENARIES WORKING FOR ASSAD and for who pays better.
    ASSAD AND NOW PUTIN WITH CHINA , IRAN AND HESBOLLAH ARE THE BIGGEST GENOCIDAL IN SYRIA.
    SYRIAN PEOPLE WANTS TO BE FREE. THEY ARE UNDER THE TERRORIST GOVERNMENT OF ASSAD FAMILY FOR MORE THAN 42 YEARS.
    IN 2011 THE REVOLUTION BEGAN IN PEACE, ASSAD ATTACKED THEM AND CONTINUE TILL NOW.
    SYRIANS ARE BOMB FROM THE EAST AND FROM THE WEST THEY ARE ALONE.
    PUTIN IS A KILLER LIKE ASSAD AND THE COALITION AND DONT FORGET GERMANY WHO JOINED TO FRANCE NOW. THEY ARE
    NOT ATTACKING ISIS THEY ATTACK CIVILIANS, THEY WANT TO EXTERMINATE SYRIANS.
    WHEN THEY HAVE ECONOMIC INTERESTS IN THE MIDDLE THE WEST AND THE SOUTH ARE FRIENDS. ALL ARE SHIT
    DEATH TO ASSAD AND PUTIN AND ALL THEIR FAMILIES AND ALLIES.

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  56. This is just the beginning, Can you imagine what it is going to look like when oil starts to run dry, even if it is a long way off before that happens. These are the golden years of humanity IMO, enjoy them while they last.

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  57. All the wars that have ever been fought, the rivers of blood that have been spilled, have been just for one purpose, and that is to create a heaven on Earth now. All the soldiers that have ever fought and died in any war did it to get us to where we are now. Everything we have done, good or bad, has just been for this one purpose, whether we consciously knew it or not. If we do not do what we need to do now, it will all have been for nothing. Soldiers are soldiers; it does not matter what side they are on. They all believed in a cause and thought they were doing the right thing. They have been victims of the beast.

    Follow through:
    If we do not go the distance and follow through, all the soldiers that died in all the wars will have died for nothing. What an incredible waste our time on Earth will have been. We are playing for all the marbles now. The time is right: All the battles, blood spilled, suffering and death in the past did not fundamentally change things, because the time was not right. It could not happen then. What it did do is get us to where we are now, and the time is right now, so their sacrifice will not have been in
    vain if we follow through.

    Now is the greatest and most important opportunity in history.

    Spiritual people do not like fighting; it is no longer in our nature, but we will do it when necessary (self-defense). People ruled by the beast will do it when it is not necessary, and that is why they have won in the past. The best defense is usually offense. The beast lives in fear and insecurity, and it will devote its life to getting and protecting material power. People ruled by the beast think about it a lot and are constantly worrying and preparing for the worst or some sort of conquest. Spiritual beings live in love and never worry about anything.

    Spiritual people devote their life to life and do not think about fighting and power or anything else much of the time. This makes them weaker in a physical sense.

    The only real security is knowing the truth and the life as Jesus and all other spiritual prophets tried to teach us.

    Truth is the only safe ground to stand on.

    Spiritual people do not worry about the worst happening, because we know it will happen to everyone, and there is absolutely nothing anyone can do about it. Everyone is going to die. Spiritual beings know the truth and do not live in denial of the truth. We are expecting the worst and are going to live every second of life until it happens. Then we'll be born again in heaven and do the same thing, only better.

    Fighting is not cool except in the ring or movies. Fighting is ugly and costly in real life. Human animals are not cool. Rowdy, violent people are human animals and a force against the truth and the life. A spiritual person can only enjoy the beast in a controlled situation, such as heavy metal music, movies, the ring, etc.

    Fighting gets you in the present, but there is a better way now.

    The real reason people fight is not what they think it is. They think it is for a cause, to right a wrong, but it is actually to get into the present. People do everything they do, directly and indirectly, to get into the present, and people will continue to fight until the ultimate truth is known and people can live in the present all the time. Fighting to get into the present is the worst way to do it, because it gives more power to the beast than anything else does. People that get drunk and tell stories that glorify war and violence are liars and fools. Usually, these same people get drunk for courage and then get rowdy and violent. In the near future, people will walk away from them in protest of their behavior.

    Tough guys use the threat of violence to get attention. They think it is respect, but it is just a sign of immaturity and ignorance. They are fools.

    People that survive combat always feel like something is missing, because the present is missing. The fear and intensity of combat brings people into the present, makes them feel more alive and alert. When they go back to normal life, it is missing.

    This is why they look back on it and think it was great. It is why people get into dangerous sports; danger can help get you into the present, but it is not the way. It gets you closer, but never will get you all the way. The beauty is that you do not have to get into combat or dangerous situations to get into the present or be more aware of life. You just have to learn the ultimate truth.

    The trick is to be able to get into the present without danger or violence.

    The truth is, dangerous things just give you a taste of the present. They do not give you all of it, because fear, adrenaline, endorphins, and other brain chemicals are keeping you from being completely open. The only way to really get into the present is to be able to do it when things are not dangerous.

    If people cannot get in the present with the truth, they will fight and do other foolish things to do it.

    Through evolution we are programmed for war. Over millions of years and countless battles, the mind of human males has been programmed to forget the reality of combat. Men forget how much their feet and every other part of their bodies hurt. They forget that they were hungry, dog tired, dirty, scared, sick, hot or cold, very uncomfortable and being eaten alive by insects. You are carrying a lot of weight and are armed to the teeth so you can kill another man, another soldier just like you, in a microsecond from the time you see him. If he is the lucky one, he sees you first and kills you. It is like killing your twin, because soldiers are all the same.

    All your idealism is gone and you are just trying to survive; that is the truth.

    It could not be worse, but evolution has programmed us to forget, so we are ready to go to war again. It was necessary in the past to be this way to survive, but we have finally made it, and now war is not only unnecessary, it is essential that we change our ways. We have to see the truth and change to survive now. People that behave violently will only look good in the movies and in the ring now. When people wake up, people that behave violently in real life will be unpopular and seen for the lowlifes that they are by everyone, especially their friends.

    Up until now, it was necessary to glorify violence and encourage rowdy, violent behavior, because we lived in a dog eat dog world and needed to prepare young men for war. The times are changing now, and anyone that tries to hang on to the savage past will be seen for the fools that they are and be socially ostracized until they change their ways. Only the truth can stop people from fighting.

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