After 7 States Began Drug Testing Welfare Recipients, 1 Thing Became Stunningly Clear

January 14, 2016   |   admintam

Drug testing welfare recipients is a waste of taxpayer money.

AnonWatcher
January 14, 2016

(ANONHQ) In early 2015 state legislatures convened across the United States proposing further drug testing for applicants applying for the Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF) program, or welfare. The countries participating, with the Bill passed included Montana, West Virginia, Texas, Maine, Michigan, and Mississippi.

The intention behind the proposal was to drug test applicants for food stamps and also unemployment benefits in a hope to save money by “getting drug users off the dole and [other benefits].” But according to ThinkProgress, data collected hasn’t displayed such results to back up the savings claim.

The costs weighed up against the success rate differed in each state but nonetheless were astounding in their results:

tennessee

missouri

oklahoma

utah

kansas

mississippi

More states have since considered the move to drug testing, with several passing laws throughout 2015. Some states, such as Arizona have stipulated as early as 2013 an amendment for those who had positive drug test results, that they would lose their benefits for a year; claiming to save the state $1.7 million annually.

Upon mid-year, legislation was passed over 13 states with a further 18 states proposing a requirement for similar laws. Wisconsin included a provision into the budget bill that would drug test individuals participating in the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP) Employment and Training program, however the federal government has indicated this may go against federal laws prohibiting states from imposing further additional eligibility criteria.

In 2003 a Michigan Court of Appeals case ruled that “subjecting every welfare applicant in Michigan to a drug test without reason to believe that drugs were being used, was unconstitutional.”

Time.com explored the issue of drug testing in late 2015, criticizing the move: “States already do a good job of ensuring no one gets a “free ride.” We don’t need another one–especially one that stigmatizes.” Social services have helped to stabilize families in much need during the recession, but it seems that the lines between rich and poor are growing larger, darker, and “harder to cross.”

For the low rate of applicants testing positive, the taxpayers’ money is arguably wasted in areas that could otherwise be directed into programs to provide further assistance. In 2003 and again in 2010 the very practice had been ruled unconstitutional. As Time explained, applying for welfare is a grueling task and one taken upon by a vast majority already working a part-time job. Add the humiliation of a drug test because eating is an unaffordable luxury; segregates and stigmatizes a social class that comprises of approximately 35.4 percent of the U.S. population.


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  1. Not sure about these numbers. Less than 1%
    Would have thought more than 1% of overall population were at least casual drug users.

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  2. It takes money to buy drugs. Their on welfare because the don't have a lot of money. But the rich do.

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  3. Most of these people smoke marijuana which is good for your health, yet Pharmacuetical drugs kill over 100,000 americans yearly and turn alot of these people who take psyche drugs into walking time-bombs. The Govt is out of control, when is the death of over 100,000 americans acceptable? Never!!!

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  4. Your graphics don't make a lot of sense. Is the cost of testing the TOTAL cost for the state of all welfare applicants, because if so, $5000 for Tennessee's testing seems very low. Is it the cost PER PERSON, PER TEST, because if so, $300,000 in Missouri seems very high. I get the premise of what you're saying but the figures need a little clarification please.

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  5. Dehanna Duncan That has not been proven in any studies, only when you use a toxic substance to smoke it then it will be harmful.

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  6. Just wondering where the writer studied geography… When did those states become COUNTRIES?!

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  7. You're right. Also, the drug lords live in nice houses in the burbs while drakes live in the poor areas. They can't afford to do the drugs they sell either unless they want to die.

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  8. You need money to be a casual drug user. Like the college sudents who live by me… They (or thier parents) are paying some 40Gs a year for school. Upper middle class kids, and man, all the drugs.

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  9. Just another way to SCAM the Taxpayers. Take a look at WHO owns the companies that are making ALL the money from the Testing. They are the SAME people that DONATED money to the Politicians that passed the Law requiring the Tests.

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  10. The person who wrote this needs to spend some money taking an English composition class. My third graders have a better sense of informational organization and grammar usage.

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  11. I think by now most people know how to pass these tests when needed

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  12. Oklahoma is making me think that these numbers need to be looked into more. Why are they spending $100/person when Tennessee spends about 35cents/person, and OK found a nearly 10% failure rate of welfare recipients tested as compared to Tennessee failure rate of 1/4% (one quarter of one percent)…. Without talking about this sort of discrepancy, we don't know anything, but I'm going to bet that Oklahoma uses a more accurate test that is a lot harder to cheat on. It's not too smart to think welfare recipients don't know to buy the drinks that make you pass when you should fail the cheap drug tests. You protect your revenue stream don't you?

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  13. Really, really good news for drug testing companies. Excellent news! For everyone else? Meh.

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  14. lol just vote communist and everyone will have a place and a job, even these people….i laugh, i joke, i kid….i kid!

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  15. Anyone with more than a few brain cells left know that people on welfare can't afford to buy drugs. Drugs are bought by people who can afford to buy them.

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  16. Rafael Hernandez The NIDA has proven it is bad for people and that isnt just people using a toxic substance with it. 9 percent of people become addicted after smoking it just one time. It is the most common illegal drug showing up on fatal car accidents. Heavy users have been shown to permanetly lose an average of 8 IQ points by mid adulthood. It is associated with school failure as well as it alters how information is processed in the hippocampus. High doses can cause psychosis and is suspected to cause mental illness. The Mayo Clinic has found no benefit for pain victims that have used it and say simple things like exercise or mediation are much more beneficial. These are just a few of the facts. People used to think there was nothing wrong with cigarettes too so it is only logical to think anything that is smoked will have an adverse effect.

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  17. Thinking that welfare recipients can even afford drugs…is ludicris, not that a few don't get them anyway…but this whole thought process of associating welfare with drugs is a big scam to mislead the public and create hate tword the needy instead of the help that welfare was created to do.

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  18. well, with all 7 States well below 1/2 % testing positive, except for oklahoma at 8% testing positive, kinda blows the Republican theory that most welfare recipients are drug users. More interesing is the variation in cost per test. KS, highest in cost per test at $14.37, TN, lowest in cost per test at $0.33 If this is a standardized blood test, why is the cost so much higher in KS than TN?0

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  19. I pleadge aligence to the flag of the USA
    And to the republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with freedom and justice for all.hahahahahahahahahahahah

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  20. I bet most of the people who get the drug testing contracts have some sort of political connenction. What a money making gig for them…

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  21. And they will employ said politicians when they have completed their civic duty and leave public office. It's always about the Benjamins….

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  22. Yeah…. You can take data and make it point to whatever conclusion you want in most cases. Without seeing the bigger picture it doesn't mean much. But even if they stopped only one person from abusing the system….. Isn't that what they say about gun control laws?

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  23. Montana, Texas, Maine, West Virginia, et.al. are not countries. Idiot writers. Check yourself.

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  24. At $50 a pop for the special drinks, I hardly think they're running out and taking risks like that.

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  25. Want to reduce the number of people collecting benefits? Have them come in to pick up their cheques, I'll bet many thousands of cheques (checks) go "unclaimed". Scammers don't have valid I.D to claim them, and hundreds can't take the day off work.

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  26. What do they say about gun control laws?
    What exactly is the bigger picture?
    I don't understand your point.

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  27. So basically the test occurs during the application process? This is not random drug screening? Is it really a surprise that the positive results were so low?

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  28. Want to reduce the number of people collecting benefits? How about eliminating corporate bailouts and tax breaks in this country? Corporations are the biggest welfare recipients of all. If we actually had decent paying jobs here, instead of outsourcing overseas or using cheap prison labor, this wouldn't be an issue. And, brace yourself, it's only going to get worse if the TransPacific Partneship is approved.

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  29. This is bullshit. If you're on welfare and are doing drugs, then find out you will be tested, does anyone think that the logical step would be stopping drug use until after the test? Come on folks

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  30. he is trying to say that saving money and saving lives are the same… and im guessing his big piture is to have some people he thinks are lazy starving homless and without medical care…

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  31. I think the owners of most drug testing companies are republicans. That's why they want drug testing!

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  32. Michael Kohls If your knowage of the U S tax code are anything like your knowage on pot. H and R Block needs to check your credentials.

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  33. Joshua Lizardi
    The bigger picture is ALL data collected. We don't know who did the study. We don't have all the data they collected. It's easy to do a study and slant the conclusion in whatever direction you want if you have a specific goal in mind.

    And the gun argument that constantly comes progressives is that if taking everyone's guns saves even one life, well then it's all worth it

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  34. I wonder whyaine was not included in the story…oh right it is working there and would ruin the narrative that it isn't working giving the liberal sheep the appearance that they know better.

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  35. I take UA's that only cost $10 a pop and they can tell you nanagram levels so OK is getting screwed. If they changed their yest suppliers then maybe they could afford to not sue Colorado for having the forethought to legalize marijuana.

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  36. So let me get this straight you test 74,320 welfare recipients and various states had different cost involved and spent $837,320.00 plus dollars collectively on the testing to find out 424 welfare recipients were using something that is a wooping .006 percent what a waste of tax payors money and time so who got the money – the scumbag testing companies that don't put money back into the communities and the lobbiest pockets of the bills that passed in the various states legislation processes. The system is suppose to be a help up and not be degrading to the recipient as they go through the struggles of the circumstances that put them there, some people do abuse it and should be taken off it like the generational users. So lets get people JOBS and AFFORDABLE HOUSING and INSURANCE Problem SOLVED

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  37. Or maybe the opposite is going on in OK … their clinics that do the testing are turning up false negatives because they do shoddy work. I was subjected to random testing for 20 years and the clinic we were sent to was a joke. Lab techs ungloved hands in specimen containers … multiple samples on tables while being labeled … a lots of bad lab practices. Government bids usually go to the lowest bidders and you get what you pay for. Oh Chad … it's not progressives asking for testing … it's the far right. And as far as mandating background checks for buying a gun … it's not taking anyone's guns from them … it's just making a point to check on any criminals or mentality unstable buy guns in a legal way. smh … boy you've got things ass backwards!

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  38. Joshua Lizardi
    No….. The difference is that the right to be armed is guaranteed by the Constitution. The right to handouts is not. But progressives are more than happy to attempt to strip that right away in the name of perceived safety… However false the perception may be. But the false right to handouts should be protected at all and any costs.

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  39. Who cares if I would smoke weed , is it allowed to drink beer ? Are they testing for the chemical shit people use ? That is the reason people turn to undetectable drugs , to pass drugs tests…
    Glad I live in Holland , I used to smoke my spliffs on the job ! LOL

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  40. Chad Hernandez …i also have rights to life liberty and the pursut of happiness … so if i wanted to not work and just chill… i have that right…and under those above said rights it is also implied that i have the right to food and water and shealter and healthcare…those things you like to call handouts…

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  41. Joshua Lizardi
    The word is pursuit. Look it up. It implies action. Not inaction. You can definitely choose inaction in a free country. In which case you've chosen to go without all of the above mentioned progressive made up rights

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  42. Is there any way to know how many people aren't showing up for testing because they know they'll fail? If more than a few percent of drug users went in for a drug test I'd be perplexed.

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  43. Chad Hernandez … playing video games and working out cleaning my house…and so on … is not inaction… it is all by defintion action… like i said before "his big piture is to have some people he thinks are lazy starving homless and without medical care…"

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  44. ""savings, particularly savings from deterrence, are difficult to measure. However, none of the legislative costs estimates we identified estimated net savings as a result of the proposed drug testing programs. For instance, an analysis of Idahos public assistance programs estimated savings from removing or deterring people with substance abuse issues at $1.12 million. The cost of drug testing and treating all approved applicants was estimated to cost between $1.2 and $1.3 million.[39] In Louisiana, as noted above, drug testing for 20% of TANF recipients and treatment for those (2%) who test positive has been estimated to cost $92,487, while savings were expected to be $31,248 for those who do not comply and have their benefits terminated. The net cost for Louisianas proposal was estimated to be $61,239." https://aspe.hhs.gov/sites/default/files/pdf/76316/ib.pdf https://aspe.hhs.gov/basic-report/drug-testing-welfare-recipients-recent-proposals-and-continuing-controversies

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  45. Who the hell is even going to take the drug test if on drugs. Bet if you looked at how much welfare expense went down, it would be from the people who didn't want to take the drug test and had to stop getting welfare because of it. Your looking at the wrong numbers. I'm actually surprised there is any positive drug test. Who's stupid enough to do that knowing they did drugs?

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  46. Joshua Lizardi
    Again… You are guaranteed the right to play your video games and work out or whatever. That's all the Constitution guarantees. You are free to do so. And you're free to live with the consequences of being broke and hungry and without health insurance. Live it up

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  47. The failure rate was lower than the population norm. It is fairly easy for even a heavy drug user to pass a test if they know when it will be. Temporary absence, purchased urine, masking drugs etc. I would be more interested in how testing was done. They should use a hair for a multi-month record.

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  48. Chad Hernandez I'm glad we dont live in the kind of world you want … and lol U.S. Department of Health & Human Services is "leftist"…

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  49. Oklahoma was over the course of 2 years. Most of the others were 6 months to a year. So it's a misleading chart if someone doesn't fully read it. Not saying you didn't read it properly, but someone will.

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  50. Michael Kohls Human body designed to utilize cannabis compounds, research finds

    Later research in the 1980s revealed that the human body contains two specific targets for THC: an endogenous framework that processes THC and other cannabinoids, known as the endocannabinoid system, and various cannabinoid receptors throughout the body that utilize them. Together, these two natural systems allow the body to benefit from the cannabinoids found in cannabis, some of which aren't found anywhere else in nature.

    "The endocannabinoids, together with the receptors and the enzymes that synthesize, that produce, the endocannabinoids and that degrade the endocannabinoids, are what we call the endocannabinoid system," added Sanchez. "And we now know that the endocannabinoid system regulates a lot of biological functions: appetite, food intake, motor behavior, reproduction, and many, many other functions. And that's why the plant has such a wide therapeutic potential."

    Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/048913_cannabis_cancer_treatment_herbal_medicine.html#ixzz3xHcsCWWJ

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  51. Michael Kohls That is a lie, you sound like a pharma troll or the flouride is working. No one gets hooked on marijuana, that is a fact. I have done research, you follow what the Govt. tells you. Go eat more GMO foods and keep drinking flouride toxic water, since you are sounding like a zombie.

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  52. Joshua Lizardi
    Why is that so hard to believe? It's a government agency. Look at this government.

    http://www.snopes.com/should-we-drug-test-welfare-recipients/

    More accurate information. Ends up saying what I said to begin with. Not enough data to say for sure. Much of the argument for your side is fixable problems with the system. Treatment costs for example. It's pretty simple. You choose to live in daddy's house? Follow daddy's rules. Choose to accept government handouts? Follow government rules. That should mean you do drugs…. You're out. The end. You want treatment? Go get treatment. You don't? Don't. Either way… It's all on you. Your choices. Your consequences. That's life. Not the fake progressive utopian BS the left in this country try to sell

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  53. Capitalism is the reason. Had we national socialized medicine, the cost would be about the same per test nationwide. moret han likelysl ightlyh igher than tennessee rate, but well below KS costs. The government has proven time and time again it can provide a service cheaper than private industry, private industry charges 30-40% more than costs, while the government does it at 5% above costs, every time.

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  54. The research I have done and is hidden from you proves that smoking marijuana is not addictive and is great for your health.

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  55. The research I have done and is hidden from you proves that smoking marijuana is not addictive and is great for your health.

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  56. Easy to pass a drug test when you know it's coming. Loving the sources provided on these "official figures" for the states.

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  57. Easy to pass a drug test when you know it's coming. Loving the sources provided on these "official figures" for the states.

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  58. Dont know much about the welfare stats regarding drug use but I have read that drug use is substantially more of an issue with people that have jobs even good paying jobs. Like it said it only distances the poor from the rich with an added stigma. People already feel humiliated using the assistance. Trust me, been there done that. The money could be better spent on either educating the welfare recipients in a lesser known field or expanding their existing knowledge.

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  59. Dont know much about the welfare stats regarding drug use but I have read that drug use is substantially more of an issue with people that have jobs even good paying jobs. Like it said it only distances the poor from the rich with an added stigma. People already feel humiliated using the assistance. Trust me, been there done that. The money could be better spent on either educating the welfare recipients in a lesser known field or expanding their existing knowledge.

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  61. HOW would the Congress and Senate Politicians do on those tests… They could easily afford to pay for their own…

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  62. Chad Hernandez That is true Chad, most studies are funded by Govt. shills who fool people into believing an illusion.

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  63. You know why it was so low right? Because all of the people who new they would get caught already stopped recieving welfare… This was announced, people knew they would get caught so they just stopped recieving it before they had to be tested… ALSO i don't believe these numbers for a fucking moment, Oklahoma spent almost $400k and $40k more than Missouri and Missouri had 10 TIMES MORE PEOPLE?! BULLSHIT!

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  64. Except the fact that there wouldn't be many positives should obvious to anyone. Stop and realize, every positive is a person who KNEW they were going to be drug tested, KNEW they wouldn't pass, but were stupid enough to take the test anyway. What's that? Not too many people did? Well no shit Sherlock!

    While I actually DON'T necessarily believe drug testing welfare applicants is a good idea, to get an accurate idea of whether drug testing saves money or not we need to know more than just how many people got denied for testing positive. We also need to know how many people knew that they wouldn't pass a drug test and therefore DID NOT APPLY AT ALL. When drug testing was implimented, did the number of applications stay the same compared to previous years… or did they strangely drop? While I don't know those numbers (and apperantly no one does, because nobody bothered to look) I'd bet dollars to doughnuts there IS a drop, and even if not large; it's larger than those numbers of positives.

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  65. Where most of the savings are realized, is in the drug users that don't bother to apply knowing they'll not only be rejected, but not allowed to apply again for a year. Don't fool yourselves into thinking there's not so many drug users out there. Those that truly need assistance, will clean up their act first. The rest want a free ride they will no longer qualify for. Good riddance to bad trash!

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  66. Julie Giroux I have a friend whose daughter was told by CPS that they were going to require her and her boy friend to come in for drug testing the next day. According to my friend, her mother, she sold $200 worth of her food stamps to get the cash to buy some sort of Native American herbs that would make her test negative for the drugs (cocaine) that she and her boyfriend had been using. It was for $100 worth each for her and her boyfriend. It apparently worked for her boyfriend, who tested negative, but didn't work for her, she tested positive and was put on six months probation where she was subject to random drug tests at any time. She and her boyfriend had been turned in for beating on one of her children. The children were put in the custody of my friend, their grandmother for that six month period. Two of her five kids, by four different men, were born jaundiced due to her drug use during pregnancy, and the last one was sent home with a "halo" unit that the mother was to use several times a day to get rid of the jaundice. Her big complaint was that it meant she had to stay home to care for her child instead of going out to party, she felt the hospital should have kept the baby until he was well enough he did not need the extra care. When I would go over to their neighborhood to visit I would have people I had never seen before offer to sell me use of their food stamp cards at $2 worth of food stamps for $1 cash. Most were drug users. This was in San Antonio, TX.

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  67. Read the article "closely", it "clearly says… "According to ThinkProgress", need I say more?

    And really, Chad, "snopes"? lmao… What's next, change.org? Planned Parenthood? Surely, errr, Shirley you can trust those outlets not to skew the facts, right?

    There hasn't been enough time pass to get accurate results from ANY testing from 2015, they'll be out soon though…

    Oh, and also, someone above said "the government" stats, would that be the same government that claims we have a 5% unemployment rate too?!? O.o lmao… Sure, ummm, k… With 100 million+ "chronically" unemployed, (no longer being included in those "stats"), and with entitlement spending over $1.5 BILLION annually, up from $640Million in 2008, you do the math… Even change.org, or one of the leftist sites accidently slipped lately while "trying" to be "factual" about this presidents actual record, admitted that unemployment would be around 10% if calculated the same as it was under President Bush.

    I guess it's not really a lie if you believe, or repeat often enough, right? U betcha! ;)

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  68. Speaking of lies, and this fraud as a potus, have you seen this?

    http://freedomoutpost.com/2015/05/1063-documented-examples-of-barack-obamas-lying-lawbreaking-corruption-cronyism-hypocrisy-waste-etc/

    Now, before you rush off to claim foul, BS rightwing this or that, EACH and EVERY documented item has at least one link, and the proverbial rabbit hole from every conceivable outlet/source imaginable. Think about it, there's OVER a 1000 documented lies by this fraud you folks somehow STILL defend and support, and nobody's been able to refute a single one, not one!

    Lastly, this man has you people so brainwashed, you actually defend an ideology that murders/executes people because they're "gay", and beat, rape and murder women just for leaving the house, or going out in public without their ankles covered. But hey, it's those evil Rethuglicans that hate women, right? Or those evil Christians causing all of the problems around the globe, right?

    When all of the dust settles in a couple of years, be prepared for the brutal reality of 8yrs of gloom and doom, and just remember, we told you so… (After we warned you about each and every thing this man's done…)

    So, feel free to believe what you want, as long as it feels good, and is reported by the "right outlet", don't dare listen to something that makes you squirm or anything… ;)

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  69. Speaking of lies, and this fraud as a potus, have you seen this?

    http://freedomoutpost.com/2015/05/1063-documented-examples-of-barack-obamas-lying-lawbreaking-corruption-cronyism-hypocrisy-waste-etc/

    Now, before you rush off to claim foul, BS rightwing this or that, EACH and EVERY documented item has at least one link, and the proverbial rabbit hole from every conceivable outlet/source imaginable. Think about it, there's OVER a 1000 documented lies by this fraud you folks somehow STILL defend and support, and nobody's been able to refute a single one, not one!

    Lastly, this man has you people so brainwashed, you actually defend an ideology that murders/executes people because they're "gay", and beat, rape and murder women just for leaving the house, or going out in public without their ankles covered. But hey, it's those evil Rethuglicans that hate women, right? Or those evil Christians causing all of the problems around the globe, right?

    When all of the dust settles in a couple of years, be prepared for the brutal reality of 8yrs of gloom and doom, and just remember, we told you so… (After we warned you about each and every thing this man's done…)

    So, feel free to believe what you want, as long as it feels good, and is reported by the "right outlet", don't dare listen to something that makes you squirm or anything… ;)

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  70. Carolanne Wright same here in the UK too, but the brainwashed, manipulated folk still direct the fire towards "Drug using, benefit claiming scumbags" and it boils my blood! Most of the UK parliament are one drugs looking at the laws being passed.

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  71. When applying for a job you get drug tested. So you should get drug tested if you are taking state or federal help. Maybe what needs to be looked at is the cost of drug testing. Who's making the money when these contracts are awarded.

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  72. I tend to agree, but then you take into consideration the cost of each person for testing vs. the cost of the benefits received and they states are still coming out good. 'Problem Solved' is never that easy.

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  73. We spend a lot of money for no other purpose than to treat people like crap. This is 21st century America.

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  74. If you think this data means anything your ignorant if you know your going to lose your welfare aka "Free Money" if you fail a drug test you really think ppl aren't going to do what ever they can to make sure to pass it? Those number are so slanted that it makes it that much more obvious they used something to pass the drug test! Look at who's on welfare I mean really? You think none of the white trash & ghetto ppl don't smoke weed & pop pills & who knows what else? You can't be that ignorant .. Actually never mind you can be this country's intelligence as a whole as dropped big time!!

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  75. If you are applying for welfare and you know they are going to drug test (for what drugs), then you stay clean until the checks come in. What needs to happen is a random drug test of people drawing the checks.

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  76. Thereare many different ways to test for drugs in urine and blood. The different tests also allow for a broad range of options–different drugs so the way a state is testing and what options they are choosing will affect the cost greatly. In additon to the different drugs amd motabolites they can test for adulterants, poroducts used to try and mask the presence of drugs in the urine. I have seen the cost of a urine tested in a lab range from 25.00 to almost 800.00. So partly what they are testing for and partly greed with the lab.

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  77. As an aside those residents of the other states might want to know why Tennessee and Mississippi can do the drug tests for a fraction of the cost????

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  78. Christopher J. Collins when I needed it, I received, at max i $140/mo in food as a single, jobless independent.

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  79. Lol The states that were picked are cute. OK how about round 2 aye? Maybe say California, Illanois, New York, Florida, and say Texas. You know the states that actually get drug flow. But yea BIIIIG waste of time… Jesus

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  80. Could we see the data of the previous years? I am curious to see if the total number of applicants is down because of the tests. If it's stopping a pliant that use drugs from applying it's still saving money to the state.

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  81. I noticed my home state of West Virgina numbers were omitted. I know why… Oklahoma ain't got nuttin' on WV!! It's a big pharma testing ground full of walking zombies. I'd be interested to see the numbers for WV. I miss it, but I'm not going back. It's a real life TWD!

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  82. The Repulican war on the poor continues. It would be interesting to have them submit to drug testing…

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  83. its just funny how in America, as soon as you cant put food on the table, you cease to be human. Nevermind that the "top" are largely just drug addicts who successfuly stepped on more people on their way "up"

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  84. The only people that benefit from this type of drug testing are the companies that make and administer the drug tests. Let's follow the money and see who is actualy pushing for welfare drug tests.

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  85. Come on people! Where is your common sense??? If folks know they're going to be drug tests and are using drugs, don't you think that is a significant deterrent to testing in the first place?? The results are low because there were a few people silly enough to think they could get past the test or had some crazy home remedy to beat the test. This is disingenuous and slanted reporting … sad

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  86. Get it yourself. Start by getting some training so you can work………help me…..give to me…….why work? They will tell you they get more from welfare then if they work, why work? Let us pay their way!

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  87. You make a great point.
    I had to get assistance when I left my abusive husband. Those workers treat a person terribly. Very sad.

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  88. Wait!!!!! Does anyone see the costs of the tests? Tennessee spent $5,000 to test 16,000 ppl but Oklahoma spent $380,000 more to test 3,000 ppl. Maybe the drug companies are making all the $$.

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  89. Yeah they had to do something because room had to be made to give those benefits to their newly naturalized slaves coming from other continents! They get benefits, full time jobs and credit cards auto loans, low interest mortgages. Oh yeah I've seen it first hand and they was bragging on everything the government was giving them.

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  90. The people involved in pushing these laws should be fined to the extent that makes up for the cost of the testing!

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  91. Yes, but you can't turn people against each other that way, can you? Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.

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  92. All this says is that drug users stopped applying for assistance. The numbers we don't see are the would-be applicants who never applied because they knew they'd get caught! … Duh.

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  93. Hair follicle tests are a bit more expensive than a urinalysis, but it would definitely change the results.

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  94. The reason it's so much more in Oklahoma is because once a person tests positive it is only in a preliminary state. A second, more expensive and accurate test is needed to confirm the results. They pretty much use just a dip stick for standard testing. The same is done for the military or else it would cost millions of dollars to test us with laboratory precision.

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  95. This report is bullshit and bias. It is impossible to calculate how much money is lost or saved by these laws when you can't calculate how many potential applicants didn't bother to apply knowing he/she would fail the drug test. Those who abuse drugs may be high, but they are far from stupid, and most are very clever. They know even one positive drug test could potentialy haunt them so they will simply avoid taking it. These same people would have most likely applied and been approved if there was no drug testing.

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  96. Don't be nieve, drug abusers use welfare to BUY drugs. Even food stamps. Drug users will "sell" their food stamps for cash in which they can turn around and buy drugs. They do this by striking deals with their dealers to buy groceries for them in exchange for drugs, or buy groceries for "friends" in exchange for cash to buy drugs, usually at a very reduced rate of exchange.

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  97. That is likely because of there are so many people abusing the walfare and public assistance systems that it shines a bad light on anyone who needs to collect it. It isn't fair to those who legitimatly need to collect on it, but there are always the bad apples. I can't speak for everyone who might speak out against public assistance, but I believe it is a neccessity to have it available for those who do need it, so long as they are actively trying to work toward not needing it. I have nothing against helping those who actually need help. I draw the line at watching my hard earned tax dollars being handed out to people who live on public assistance with no aspirations to improve themselves by not even having a job or even any inclination to getting a job. I am even less inclined to seeing drug addicts collect public assistance who would most likely turn around trade it for drugs. I know of several people from both situations I have described.

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  98. Depending on what drug is being taken, staying clean for a time, and they can pass. Meth being the most popular, a user can test clean only a couple days from his/her last fix. It takes longer for the body to flush out pot.

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  99. Oh man. Middle class has no idea what the sad truth really is. These numbers do not reflect the actually problem. These numbers are wildly incorrect.

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