City Council Tells Police they have 60 Days to Plan to Destroy or Remove MRAP

August 28, 2014   |   Justin King

Justin King | The Anti-Media | August 28th, 2014

Water cannon in Kiev, Ukraine.  Credit Amakhou

Water cannon in Kiev, Ukraine. Credit Amakhou

Davis County, CA Council members could set a trend after they listened to the public and ordered the police to find a way of getting rid of the department’s newly acquired Mine Resistant Ambush Protected (MRAP) vehicle. Image credit: wikipedia.org

The City Council held an open meeting to listen to public concerns about the MRAP and then adopted a resolution demanding the Police deliver a plan to get rid of the offending vehicle.

One man was quotes as saying:

“I would like to say I do not suggest you take this vehicle and send it out of Davis, I demand it.”

Water cannon protecting  and serving in Ankara, Turkey.  Photo Credit: Sabri76

Water cannon protecting and serving in Ankara, Turkey. Photo Credit: Sabri76

The few in favor of keeping the MRAP did their best to come up with legitimate uses for the vehicle. One of the suggested uses:

“Since you can’t give it back it should be repurposed, you can put a water cannon on it.”

The reader should allow that statement to sink in. The best legitimate use offered was to outfit the vehicle with the same equipment used to deny equal rights during the 1960s. The cannons were used for the same reason in South Africa in the 1980s. Water cannons are typically used in totalitarian countries to disperse the huddled masses who are clamoring for freedom in some form of nonviolent protest. This is the best use of the vehicle.

Echoing statements by Police Chiefs and Sheriffs across the country who obtain the military vehicles, Police Chief Landry Black indicated that the MRAP would only be used in certain situations, though it is unclear how exactly the department would have deployed the controversial vehicle. The only vote in favor of keeping the vehicle in the Police Department’s arsenal came from Councilman Brett D. Lee.

One could hope that this is the start of a national trend that seeks to curtail law enforcement’s continuing overreach and militarization. MRAPs were deployed in Ferguson to intimidate protesters who police believed should “have been put down like a rabid dog the first night.

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Justin King joined Anti-Media as an independent journalist in July of 2014. His topics of interest include activism, human rights, international relations, and military affairs. Born in Japan, he currently resides in the United States.

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  1. The video….built for safety…yeah…SOLDIERS…not police or citizens…where the heck did they get that idea? Crime fighting tool? No…it is a military tool for the military…NOT the police.

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  2. These vehicles are to be used against your enemies. In this case "WE THE PEOPLE" ?

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  3. Davis County, CA? No such place. Are you talking about Davis, CA (which is in Yolo County) or maybe Davis County, Utah?

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  4. There's no such thing as "Davis County, CA". The city of Davis, CA, home the University of California at Davis (UC Davis), the site of the infamous pepper spray incident a few years back, is located in Yolo County, CA. It was the Davis City Council who kick out the MRAP.

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  5. Idiocy. The military doesn't even use it as a weapons platform. It is designed to move people safely while under attack. Next time a Columbine or Vtech or North Hollywood shooting happens, the victims can sadly wait while police borrow a brinks truck to safely get close to the target or victims. Thanks public stupidity and its focus on superficial appearance!

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  6. That's awesome! Recycle it. Use the money to throw a BBQ for the community.

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  7. Sorry to be that guy but the whole water cannon statement in the article,… Could you have not played the typical race card crap to make it seem justified haha , like yeah I'd much rather be shot at with an mg42 mounted on there then a water cannon

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  8. Detroit got some of these a couple years ago. They paraded it down busy "ghetto" street and it shook the earth. And screamed martial law

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  9. Yup this is my little town! Same place where the cop pepper sprayed 12 students. Where I've been arrested three times for walking home drunk…I knew i should've drove. The cops are so bored here…

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  10. Thanks for making this public — hope it cascades thru the country

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  11. So now if the rest of the police forces in country did same….this would be the United States ofbAmerica

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  12. Taking deadly toys away from fascist children. Glad to see some fucking adults are in charge over there.

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  13. Turn it into a firetruck ….or a hamburger van…

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  14. Have you ever noticed how faggity ass our police in this country are! These vehicles were built for soldiers in a time of war! Used for war….. Great idea to flood the streets of America with thousands of MRAP's armored humvees , a shit ton of other military equipment , what could possibly go wrong? A nation of fools

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  15. Served honorably for my country for OIF but over here, I'll be one who would organize attacks on these things & those operating them if they keep this crap up because this is not the place where these belong. Take em' and destroy em'!

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  16. Sometimes I swear too many people have there heads burried in the sand. I would welcome such equipment in my community for reasons ive seen these be useful in preventing caous . People forget desasters can happen at any time any where. If a community finds there self needing to defend for there selves they will wish they had fighter jets. Rather be prepared for tge what ifs than not.

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  17. The cops having MRAPs isn't really a bad thing. Good for SWAT raids and such. And MRAPs have a variety of faults. So let em have em. All they are is big, top heavy trucks.

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  18. I agree on re-purposing them but don't let the police keep them cause even putting water cannons on them they would still use them against peaceful protesters. They can be stripped down and refitted to be use for rescue services like they needed during the Katrina hurricane and flooding in the mid west areas to get into places faster to bring much needed rescue personnel to.

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  19. Well done, Davis County, CA! I urge all U.S. municipalities to follow suit.

    If they do, however, I wouldn't be surprised if the Feds staged some sort of horrific event that they blame on "terrorists", to freak out Americans across the country, to show why all of these police departments "need" to tightly hold onto all of this stuff.

    After all, it was most of the members of Congress and Senate who instigated this nationalization and militarization of our nation's police forces (and a number of them personally profited by it). They have a vested in interest in keeping things the way they are…

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  20. The MRAP is treated like the AR-15. ( Scary black rifle) It's an inanimate object. The evil is in the "Human" behind the wheel or on the trigger.

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  21. A necessary piece of safety equipment?! I see, because of all of those I.E.D.s that have been blowing your squad cars up, wounding and killing your officers, yes? Oh, I know, they're necessary because of the high profile hostage and active shooter situations you've been plagued with. Then there are all of those pesky snipers who've been picking off LEO's and citizens by the dozens, no? The Chief says citizens of Davis have a high quality of life, but sometimes the "Real world" intrudes. Hey, Davis citizens! You weren't aware you were living in a fantasy world, were you? Chief? Yours is the fantasy world. A world filled with Home Grown Terrorist
    (citizens) bombers, bank robbers, and kidnappers. It's your fantasy world that is the "intrusion!" Davis has a great quality of life in spite of you, Chief, not because of you, or your paranoid LEO's. I'm very glad the citizens of Davis stood up to you, and the council. It's not a "war" out there, Chief, until you show up, with your M.R.A.P's, Fully Armored Shock Troops, and a weapons array fit only for war.

    Your job is to be a Peace Keeper, sir, not a war maker

    The Police department and council should not have the authority to buy or receive equipment like this, whether or not it's at:full cost, or "no cost"; they were presumptuous in their decision to do so Of course, to advertise these – – – monstrosities as "no cost" acquisitions, is just a little misleading. There is an incredibly high cost for these "Crime fighting tools", and the people across the country are the ones who have paid it. The roughly $500-700 thousand dollar war machines were paid for, not by the government (the government has no money of it's own), but, by the citizens of the U.S.. The money comes from the treasury that runs over with the tax revenue exacted upon the people. This includes the tax paying citizens of Davis. The money spent on these — things, is their money, and nothing of this nature should "intrude" into their "high quality of life" without their consent. Procuring weapons of war for use on public streets shouldn't happen at all, but making a deal like this without the people's knowledge AND consent, is completely out of the question.

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  22. the damn things were built without any concern for the needs of any user. its useless for the military as it is bound to roads which makes troops movements and patrols predictable and therefore easier for the enemy to ambush, it serves no valid use for law enforcement as it's presence deters deescalation of events which should always be foremost in the mind of a LEO. and even for police its limited cross country capability means it can't even be used effectively as a rescue vehicle in rural area's. additionally the maintenance cost of the machines ensures that departments that do deploy these things will be spending a small fortune just to keep them operational.

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  23. MRAP's have fair law enforcement use. Say you go to a bomb threat situation, and you have to evacuate civilians. Try Doing that on foot or in an unarmored bus, and see how many civilians and cops go down from shrapnel. They are also an effective fire fighting vehicle, since their armor can protect against superheated flames.

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  24. There were no MRAPS deployed in Ferguson.

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  25. Yeah, they should put the cops in tshirts, shorts and drive priuses with a stern NO, to protect your dumb a$$es! IDIOTS!

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  26. I say keep it but use it to peacefully protect the police against citizens with malicious intent

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  27. This why every invasion type movie or scenario is in California! Those people will just roll out the Ref Carpet!

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  28. "…it is unclear how exactly the department would have deployed the controversial vehicle. "

    Well, that doesn't sound safe. How about submitting a plan regarding regulation and deployment of these things before we let you take it out for a joyride?

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  29. Watch the movie " spies of Mississippi "on Netflix… Fastward to 30:05 , watch what the 60's tried to do.

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  30. This is why I will never give my guns up gov. Is getting to big for our. Good

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  31. Looking at some of the comments in this thread is disheartening – people willing to trade freedom for comfort, not just for themselves but for future generations, to let the nanny state run their lives. The populace needs parity with the government in terms of material – LOOK AT HISTORY!

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  32. Finally some sanity! There IS hope! (referring to the article, not the comments)

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  33. Why is it they only started discussing this when the terror group Isis now has plans to kill on American soil??? How full is your local National Guard Armory ??? What equipment is available to fight back terrorists without trucking it in from 1,000 miles away ? You saw how they marched those men off to execution… There is probably 400 mosques closer to my home than a military base…When the attacks come I'd rather have the good guys with guns close by and that does not authorize them to violate the constitution. Hold violating cops accountable just as we need to hold the politically motivated press/propaganda accountable …

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  34. I hope shit never hits the fan in this country . The way things are , those idiots from isis wont need to lift a finger because were going to tear eachother apart anayways .

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  35. If this is anti media why do you have media adds plastered on your posts?

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  36. If you honestly believe that some local mosques are a bigger threat to your freedom than the government on US soil, you're highly brainwashed. There is no way some unsophisticated ragtag army halfway across the world is going to subjugate 300 million americans who pretty much have more firepower than the entire rest of the world combined.

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  37. Here's a novel idea, use it as a D .A.R.E vehicle (I'm sure kids would get a kick out of it), or, donate it to a museum of some sort.

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  38. Give it to the military, even outfitted with a water cannon it is more damaging than current non-violent protocols taught to law enforcement. The military needs it more than a public servant established to serve and protect. Local law enforcement needs a serious re-write on their levels of escalation of force by using common policemen unnecessarily decked out in full body armor and assault rifles when there is the National Guard that is trained and prepared for a "local attack". These vehicles aren't needed by law enforcement because they aren't facing IED's and RPG ambushes on a daily basis on American soil.

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  39. I'm literally scared to live here everyday now…. I'm scared for my family, and I'm scared for my daughter…. Why must there be so much horrible shit in the world?

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  40. Yo, Elmer. A mosque has as much right to be near your home as any other "church." Our cops are out of control and have become more of a threat than Muslims.

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  41. Just please don't send that crap to other communities. Consider torching it/them to allow firefighters to practice dousing vehicle fires or outfit it/them to provide firefighters with a mobile command center or such for forest fires.

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  42. Comfort. LOL. Give me a break. Morons.

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  43. You're an idiot Elmer, I.S. are terrible fanatics yes, but I have to say that being fearful of all mosques and Muslims is fanaticism in its purest form

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  44. You lost all credibility with your RWNJ "nanny state" comment.

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  45. LOL. Nanny state LOL. WTF… these are militaristic tanks you twat.

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  46. I will buy ANY MRAP for the sum of $1 from any police agency that needs to get rid of one.

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  47. Why as american are we still putting up with the government/or any state offical try to treat us like a 3rd world country? does anyone not see a trend here? Our HIRED (as we pay taxes to pay them) Police and Government officals as high as the president are elected and/or paid for by the people suppose to be for the people and are just there for thier own purposes, police brutality is at an all time high shooting kids in the street and leaving them there, do u really think they need a tank? WTH is wrong with u ppl wanna see the masses getting murdered or under militarist forces keep letting them do what they want my god STAND UP FOR YOUR RIGHTS…o forgot those were all taken during "911" but then again noone cared then either….wth is this country coming to THE HOME OF THE FREE AND THE BRAVE!!! now its the home of the Robots and the comfortable. I am personally offended by the behavior of the people in this country!

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  48. It's hard. To follow what you are. Trying to say when you. Like this.

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  49. Someone once said something simular "any one foolish enough to trade liberty for safety deserve neither and will get neither.

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  50. I find myself wondering how they were able to purchase it in the first place. This kind of thing can't be cheap and I'm sure someone had to approve it. City council? It angers me that our tax dollars are spent on this type of ridiculous overkill equipment for law enforcement. I doubt they'll get rid of it though… probably just hide it in someone's pole barn until they want to use it.

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  51. it should be at the boarder patrolling doing something useful.

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  52. Damn….does anyone have a set of balls in ca? MRAP is a great versatile tactical vehicle that is an asset for any agency to have. It's a precautionary measure. It can even be used as an emergency response vehicle. But, lets cry about cops abusing power and becoming militant and get rid of it. People are stupid and too soft. Oh, guess what….many law enforcement officials were soldiers in the military first….god people dense.

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  53. So drug fellas or hands having all the weapons they have and the police can't use that to protect them selves when they go to get those guys not to mention it's armored probably used for swat purposes not like it's a patrol car

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  54. Yes it must be REALLY scary at the Tarrant County College Northeast Campus LOL, I hope your post was sarcastic and I am too dimwitted to pick it up.

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  55. I enjoy getting educated by this site Anti-Media, however, I've seen some alarming trends here lately. Let's just say that I implore you to stick to the facts and leave the dubious sensationalism for the mainstream. We want cold hard facts not Jerry Springer. Thank-you for your service.

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  56. They should sell all these military weapons and vehicles to civilians legally.

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  57. Here's a thought. Don't want to get sprayed by a water cannon? Don't want to see that MRAP in your front yard?? Wanna keep that thing in the city garage collecting dust?? Then…. Wait for it…. Don't be a looting, rioting, worthless piece of shit criminal looking for any reason to raise hell hiding behind a worthy cause or reason for a peaceful protest. Mad about Ferguson??.. Loot a tire and rim shop. That will show the world how serious you are. Get real people. Criminals have escalated the game with automatic weapons…and zero respect for the law. Fuck em.

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  58. Transfer them to the national guard. Only local use likely to be evacuations in emergency but they will get regular training and maintenance. They would remain available for the army if ever a future need.

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  59. What part of NO do fascism supporters not get….. No matter what dumbass excuse people come up with to keep this war machine available for a scumbag tyrant to get his hands on… That type of equipment belongs in private ownership before it belongs in governments hands.

    DARE = another bs program extorting communities. WTF is wrong with you people. Can you not see how brainwashed you've been to support the exact same thing we pretended we were fighting wars to NOT ALLOW TO HAPPEN HERE….

    Earth to morons. I can't safely leave my home, because of GOVERNMENT, and I have no intention of hurting or robbing anyone. People live in fear of TYRANTS, not the COMMON CRIMINAL. Thats a simple problem to deal with in comparison.

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  60. The national guard also does not need this to repress people as useful idiots of tyrants, which is exactly what they have proven themselves to be.

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  61. Give it to me or have a lottery! I can strip some of it sale part of it and drive it..m

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  62. Stephen Goble I agree, but if some threat were to come to our soil I would rather the national guard be prepared, because the military has sworn an oath to protect the constituition and freedoms of american people… cops haven't and would probably run at the first sign of an ambush

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  63. Mr Mason, you are dimwitted but not for the sake of sarcasm. There are some ridiculously troubling things happening in the world today and Ms Amick has every right to be worried. As one of many examples, there is a terrorist organization approaching 50,000 members who has in excess of $2 billion in cash assets and daily revenue of $3 million who have sworn to raise their flag over the White house. I live in Bannock County in backwoods Idaho and I'm very worried about the world and anyone who is not at the very least uncomfortable is by definition dimwitted.

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  64. Well, given that they're not MWRAPs, but just an armored car with bad ass looking body kits, you could sell them to Wells-Fargo. Or you know, you could put them in the back of the garage for the next time a Hollywood Bank Robbery occurs.

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  65. Some of you people are moronic!!! You are in essence asking for a "Police State"! There is no reason for any Law. Enforcement Agency to own this type of equipment. This is limited to the MIlitary only, and even then, on the battlefield, not on our streets against American citizens!!!! Wake up sheeple!!

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  66. I was enjoying the article until I came to the comment: "Water cannons are typically used in totalitarian countries to disperse the huddled masses who are clamoring for freedom in some form of nonviolent protest. This is the best use of the vehicle." Sorry guys, but not every single protest is bunny hugging, peaceful, make love not war and have a flower by some doe eyed long haired girl. Yes, some are, but some protests these days are also complete anarchy by people who want to cause as much trouble and do as much damage as possible…just because they can. "Police are pigs…fuck 'em" does not make for a peaceful protest. That being said…there have been a lot of cases where the police have gone overboard because of the types of equipment available to them. Does a vehicle such as this have a role in general policing? In my opinion…no. However, when some anarchists/hooligans start firing back at a legitimate police presence or assaulting officers…I'll rather be in one of these than a Prius!

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  67. no not the world just the home of the free and the brave. just remember the word free is used very loosely, i suppose it just depends on your definition. However mr. mason you really need to stop watching the news and believing everything they tell you cause its so far from the truth half truth doesn't even suffice. Watch the correct things and maybe read do you know how to do that or are u too dimwitted ……..

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  68. Stephen Goble you deserve a commendation finally someone who has a brain i was beginning to think i lived in the wizard of OZ where everyone sung "if i only had a brain" Thank you sir for restoring faith in humanity …at least a little. Now onto the subject at hand how could they know their rights are being violated and stripped away the news didn't tell them …. o noes u mean our fascist greedy sold out government lies to us *puts hand over mouth* oh my god …. ppl are stupid sheep in this country WAKE UP PPL EVEN THE FRENCH PUT THEIR GOVERNMENT IN LINE WE PAY THESE FUCKS, they work for us not the other way around!!!!!!

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  69. Dan Manning tbh sir i believe the hicks and rednecks of our great nation would be better than the national guard >.> lol and we wouldn't have to worry about it if our troops were where they belong (AT HOME) instead of our o so greedy country sending them where we dont belong … ..

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  70. Jenny da Mota ??? You're the one who needs to stop watching the news. I merely commented to the effect that I believe the sky is not falling. Troll much?

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  71. Derek Sommer It is not only time consuming but counterproductive and foolish to become preoccupied with all of the world's problems and what ifs. I'm certainly not advocating the proverbial head in the sand but lighten up Francis. We are here for just a short time. There were terrorists before us and will be after we are gone. Carpe Diem

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  72. You're absolutely right concerning the fact that today need to be seized. The opportunities of today, if not acted upon, will sometimes never be available to us again. Three years ago I would've agreed with everything you just said. Now, I dont live for me but for my daughter. She's going to grow up in this world and the problems that are in it dont need to be her problems as well. When there is evil as bad as we see with ISIS, or injustice and certainly a slow progression towards police state mentality, or any other problem that troubles me, its my responsibility as a parent to try to find ways to make the world better for my children. Carpe Diem – seize the day as in make the most of it. Not ignore the bad and focus on the good. Not have fun and be happy through ignorance to major problems around you. Seize it, do something, make something of your life and the world.

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  73. When some cities in Murka now consider homelessness a crime, I cringe every time I use a parking lot to park in.

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  74. They are using the fear to further divide and confuse us. Learn to care for yourselves. Plan accordingly and stock up on crucial items such as food, water, ammo, etc. There will be a period of social unrest, but if you are prepared the fear will turn to confidence.

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  75. Leslie Brundige Nice ad hominem attack – a classic sign that you don't have an actual argument, and/or intelligence. I'm not "right wing" or any wing. Nut job?? really? grow up.

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  76. Brock Riebe Nanny state refers to people relying on government to take responsibility for them instead of taking responsibility for themselves. "twat" – how old are you?

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