Cop Tells World: I’ll Shoot You for Walking Wrong

August 20, 2014   |   Justin King

Justin King | The Anti-Media

The Washington Post ran a piece of propaganda written by a Professor in the academically intensive field of “Homeland Security,” you know one of the majors you see on late night TV that’s taught through correspondence courses. He also served the LAPD for 17 years, and the people know how well regarded that particular institution is for its safeguarding of civil rights. Sunil Dutta takes pen to paper to explain to people that the only way they can avoid being gunned down by a cop is to be lead like a lamb to slaughter in any interaction with law enforcement. Image credit: Cris Yarzab (Author of WaPo Op-ed Sunil Dutta not pictured. Generic LAPD photo.)

Rather than let this wonderfully crafted pile of steaming doublespeak go by without comment, the entire opinion piece is included along with appropriate commentary.

“A teenager is fatally shot by a police officer; the police are accused of being bloodthirsty, trigger-happy murderers; riots erupt. This, we are led to believe, is the way of things in America.”

This isn’t what the people are led to believe; this is a pretty good summary of the events.

“It is also a terrible calumny; cops are not murderers. No officer goes out in the field wishing to shoot anyone, armed or unarmed. And while they’re unlikely to defend it quite as loudly during a time of national angst like this one, people who work in law enforcement know they are legally vested with the authority to detain suspects — an authority that must sometimes be enforced. Regardless of what happened with Mike Brown, in the overwhelming majority of cases it is not the cops, but the people they stop, who can prevent detentions from turning into tragedies.”

First, I feel I should compliment Mr. Dutta for his expansive vocabulary. “Calumny” basically means “slander,” for those that don’t want to Google the definition. But it isn’t slander. A teenager was fatally shot by a cop. That’s not in dispute. Here’s a list of other people killed by cops just this month. No doubt that some were justified, but some weren’t. Maybe the officer didn’t wake up that morning and say “Today, I’m going to kill someone.” Maybe he did, but we can’t prove it, so it’s not premeditated. Let’s call it Murder in the Second Degree. Sometimes they kill people just because they “don’t have time” to deal with it. It should also be pointed out, Professor, that cops have the legal authority to detain someone under certain circumstances, not just because they call them a “suspect.”

“Working the street, I can’t even count how many times I withstood curses, screaming tantrums, aggressive and menacing encroachments on my safety zone, and outright challenges to my authority. In the vast majority of such encounters, I was able to peacefully resolve the situation without using force.”

Great, so has every bartender in the country. Your job isn’t that dangerous, stop acting like it is. Your job is less dangerous than being a trash collector. The time of being able to point to the dangers of the job is over. It is also a career path you chose. Journalism can get pretty tense at times too, but when I’m photographing in an area and someone becomes abrasive with me, I don’t get to shoot them with anything but a camera.

“Cops deploy their training and their intuition creatively, and I wielded every trick in my arsenal, including verbal judo, humor, warnings and ostentatious displays of the lethal (and nonlethal) hardware resting in my duty belt. One time, for instance, my partner and I faced a belligerent man who had doused his car with gallons of gas and was about to create a firebomb at a busy mall filled with holiday shoppers. The potential for serious harm to the bystanders would have justified deadly force. Instead, I distracted him with a hook about his family and loved ones, and he disengaged without hurting anyone. Every day cops show similar restraint and resolve incidents that could easily end up in serious injuries or worse.”

Wonderful anecdote. Tell it to Misty Holt-Singh, but you’re going to have to talk really loud because she’s in a cemetery after officers showed so much restraint that their bullets sent her to the grave when she was taken hostage. I’m sure the dozens of other unarmed dead killed this year by cops would love to hear your story. I’m sure they’d love to hear anything at all.

“Sometimes, though, no amount of persuasion or warnings work on a belligerent person; that’s when cops have to use force, and the results can be tragic. We are still learning what transpired between Officer Darren Wilson and Brown, but in most cases it’s less ambiguous — and officers are rarely at fault. When they use force, they are defending their, or the public’s, safety.”

Another standard line the people are told to believe. Cops are just defending the public’s safety. Without the thin blue line, there would certainly be rioting in the streets. Funny, it seems like the thin blue line has caused rioting in the streets. What public safety risk was happening when officers killed Eric Garner? In your 17 years as a cop how many wife beaters, rapists, murderers, and other actual public safety risks did you take off the street? How many times did you initiate violence when there was none when you cuffed someone for illegal possession of a plant, prostitution, or for failing to pay some form of extortion to the state? You aren’t a hero. You’re the armed collection force of the largest extortion racket this country has ever seen.

“Even though it might sound harsh and impolitic, here is the bottom line: if you don’t want to get shot, tased, pepper-sprayed, struck with a baton or thrown to the ground, just do what I tell you. Don’t argue with me, don’t call me names, don’t tell me that I can’t stop you, don’t say I’m a racist pig, don’t threaten that you’ll sue me and take away my badge. Don’t scream at me that you pay my salary, and don’t even think of aggressively walking towards me.”

I am arguing with you. I think you’re a complete idiot. You can’t stop me. Well, I’m a heterosexual blonde-haired, blue-eyed white male; so I don’t have a race card, but I’ll still call you a pig. Make no mistake, if you violate my rights I will sue you and use your badge as a paperweight. We do pay your salary, and your subjective belief of how I am walking is not grounds for lethal force. It’s funny how I can do all of these things to you as a private citizen, but the second you put on a magic blue costume, it gives you grounds to assault and kidnap me.

This passage shows you for what you are: a hired thug. Thankfully, you don’t represent all cops, but it terrifies me to find out you teach future law enforcement officers. Your students now believe it’s OK to shoot someone for calling them names. That is what you just said. I hope you’re tenured because I have a feeling Colorado Tech University is going to get a whole lot of heat for keeping you on staff.

“Most field stops are complete in minutes. How difficult is it to cooperate for that long?”

That’s the wonderful thing about living in a free country, even though those freedoms are currently on life support. We don’t have to cooperate with you. If you don’t want to receive any resistance, don’t ask me where I’m going, don’t ask me where I’ve been, don’t ask me if you can search my car, don’t ask me what’s in my bag, don’t ask how I know my passenger, and don’t even think of pulling a weapon on me.

Most field stops are complete in minutes. How difficult is it to not violate someone’s rights for the length of time it takes to write a ticket?

“I know it is scary for people to be stopped by cops. I also understand the anger and frustration if people believe they have been stopped unjustly or without a reason. I am aware that corrupt and bully cops exist. When it comes to police misconduct, I side with the ACLU: Having worked as an internal affairs investigator, I know that some officers engage in unprofessional and arrogant behavior; sometimes they behave like criminals themselves.”

Of course, it’s scary. You, someone who is attempting to tell people how to avoid getting shot, has already stated that you might shoot someone because you believe the manner in which they are walking is not proper. Scared animals, including humans, have a fight or flight mechanism. Perhaps your cutesy little piece here attempting to scare people into submission wasn’t such a good idea. All you have done is reinforce the idea that it is better to roll the dice and hope the cop can be subdued with force rather than hoping not to offend your delicate sensibilities. Working LAPD’s Internal Affairs just means you were the Gestapo arm of the department. A cop offends a higher up, and you get turned loose. You weren’t out trying to protect the citizens from bad cops; your opinion piece clearly shows the country that even those responsible for investigating cops believe it’s OK to put a bullet in someone who calls them a name.

“I also believe every cop should use a body camera to record interactions with the community at all times. Every police car should have a video recorder. (This will prevent a situation like Mike Brown’s shooting, about which conflicting and self-serving statements allow people to believe what they want.) And you don’t have to submit to an illegal stop or search. You can refuse consent to search your car or home if there’s no warrant (though a pat-down is still allowed if there is cause for suspicion). Always ask the officer whether you are under detention or are free to leave.”

After your little tirade about what is likely to get people shot, you expect them to question their betters and try to exercise their constitutionally protected rights? Are you kidding? You just told the American people in no uncertain terms this is how people end up getting “shot, tased, pepper-sprayed, struck with a baton or thrown to the ground.”

“Unless the officer has a legal basis to stop and search you, he or she must let you go. Finally, cops are legally prohibited from using excessive force: The moment a suspect submits and stops resisting, the officers must cease use of force.”

By this point in the piece I became convinced that you lost a bet and had to write this as a joke. Kelly Thomas’s brutal murder by cops from your neck of the woods shows this to be a complete fabrication. He submitted, and was still beat to death. The courts provided no justice. Now you act surprised that Americans, having lost faith in the police and courts, are holding trial in the streets. Just as prosecutors offer defendants life sentences to get the plea in order to avoid the death penalty, people have come to realize that it’s better to kill a cop and go to prison than be beat to death while begging for their father.

“But if you believe (or know) that the cop stopping you is violating your rights or is acting like a bully, I guarantee that the situation will not become easier if you show your anger and resentment. Worse, initiating a physical confrontation is a sure recipe for getting hurt. Police are legally permitted to use deadly force when they assess a serious threat to their or someone else’s life. Save your anger for later, and channel it appropriately.”

Legality has nothing to do with this anymore. Officers that fail to abide by the law should expect resistance. It may not be wise, but it’s better than bleeding out in a car while the cop delays medical treatment so there is only one story of the chain of events leading up to the shooting. Police departments across the country have made the choice to militarize and enforce unjust laws. Don’t be surprised that people have decided to meet force with force. You wanted to play army, well even in the childhood version; somebody ends up lying on the ground. Don’t cry about it now.

“Do what the officer tells you to and it will end safely for both of you. We have a justice system in which you are presumed innocent; if a cop can do his or her job unmolested, that system can run its course. Later, you can ask for a supervisor, lodge a complaint or contact civil rights organizations if you believe your rights were violated. Feel free to sue the police! Just don’t challenge a cop during a stop.”

Your advice is submit to sexual assault, harassment, deprivation of rights, assault, or whatever the officer decides to dish out, and then contact his supervisor who will probably laugh while he watches the dashcam video before it is erased and the statement goes out that the camera malfunctioned. No thanks. The American people have tried that for long enough. It doesn’t work. Your thin blue line has created a backlash.

“An average person cannot comprehend the risks and has no true understanding of a cop’s job. Hollywood and television stereotypes of the police are cartoons in which fearless super cops singlehandedly defeat dozens of thugs, shooting guns out of their hands. Real life is different. An average cop is always concerned with his or her safety and tries to control every encounter. That is how we are trained.”

Stop. We have all seen the stats. It is not that dangerous. A fisherman has a more dangerous job. Real life is different than the movies. The cops in movies know better than to shoot into a car with hostages, they know better than to shoot unarmed people, they don’t rape “suspects,” they don’t run pedophile prostitution rings, and they don’t flash their guns at sorority girls buying bottled water.

“While most citizens are courteous and law abiding, the subset of people we generally interact with everyday are not the genteel types. You don’t know what is in my mind when I stop you. Did I just get a radio call of a shooting moments ago? Am I looking for a murderer or an armed fugitive? For you, this might be a “simple” traffic stop, for me each traffic stop is a potentially dangerous encounter. Show some empathy for an officer’s safety concerns. Don’t make our job more difficult than it already is.”

If you can’t handle these things without violating people’s rights or shooting unarmed people, then you are in the wrong line of work. Maybe you should take up teaching or something. After all, those that can’t do, teach.

“Community members deserve courtesy, respect and professionalism from their officers. Every person stopped by a cop should feel safe instead of feeling that their wellbeing is in jeopardy. Shouldn’t the community members extend the same courtesy to their officers and project that the officer’s safety is not threatened by their actions?”

This is all true, but now that police use fear as a weapon and attempt to intimidate the populace with armored vehicles, black uniforms, no-knock raids, military tactics, and propaganda pieces in the Washington Post that basically say that they can do whatever the hell they want, the people don’t want you to feel safe. When you behave like an occupying army, expect resistance. The police chose this route, not the people. When people are subjugated by an oppressive control system, they will find a way to dismantle that system. They will exhaust all other options, but then they will use violence. Until police departments remember who pays their salary, I’d suggest you keep your schedule clear for more of your friends’ funerals, because communities across the country are tired of burying people because cops have declared war on the American people.

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Author: Justin King

Justin King joined Anti-Media as an independent journalist in July of 2014. His topics of interest include activism, human rights, international relations, and military affairs. Born in Japan, he currently resides in the United States.

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  1. For all who have any doubts left in your head about the intent to harm that police start work with everyday……..here's your sign…with video for all of you who can't read…..if there are good cops as I'm sure there's some….then stand up and out the violent and abusive cops….try being a human being for once…..just once…

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  2. Challenge my authority, I couldn't get past that one. No dialog , No objective reasoning

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  3. This is so amazing. Kudos on this top notch eye opener

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  4. this guy sounds like such an ass, his whole attitude and ego. "An average cop is always concerned with his or her safety and tries to control every encounter. That is how we are trained.” so self-centered. and they've built up this whole fantasy about how dangerous their job is, the mentality is just toxic

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  5. Thank you Justin King for exposing some of what goes on behind the thin blue line. It has been my mission and my passion for the last 4 yrs. to make the public aware of the militarization of our police forces and expose the blatant abuse of power. As stated in your article, the police are policing themselves and initiating the discipline they deem suitable when the openly admit that they can justify the murder of a citizen while enjoying a paid vacation. This type of individual is training new recruits and instilling the mindset that "murder" can be justified if you are in law enforcement. I am of the opinion that there are no good cops….if there were there would be no bad cops….just ask Chris Dorner.

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  6. cops hate us for our freedoms

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  7. thank God I have a CWP…Its meant for assholes just like this one

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  8. I'm petrified that this imbecile is teaching more pigs how to bully the American populace.

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  9. In other words… bend over and take it. And even then, we may just shoot you on the off chance you tell someone or we don't like the look of they way you bend. Either way, you will pay for having had the nerve to cross my path. Oh yeah… I feel SO protected and served. Served a plate full of shit maybe…

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  10. No need to rehash the "those who don't do, teach" line. Teaching is something that a lot of people aren't even capable of doing effectively, so give a little credit where credit is due for those who are skilled at it. 🙂 Other than that I don't really have any issues with this piece. Good job pointing out the blatant hypocrisy.

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  11. My step-brother was a good cop, one of the few. Stood up to a corrupt chief and police force. They tried to burn him at the stake and failed. Now he is Chief of Police. He has fired every officer that has ever done anything that would call their integrity into question and in doing so he has made a lot of enemies. Does he stop? No he continues to purge the department of all that think they are GOD.

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  12. Yeah… Sorry about that. A couple of people have pointed that out, and I genuinely feel bad. I really just meant it as a dig at him. For what it's worth, I used to be an instructor too.

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  13. just a few days ago i got popped for possession of cannabis. when the pig fucker put the cuffs on, he was soooo amped up or scared, his hands were very noticeably shaking even though i had not raised my voice, i had cooperated completely, and i had answered every question as honestly (probably too honestly) as i could. the way his hands were shaking honestly scared the shit out of me. i mean, what would have happened if i had one of my episodes of severe vertigo and suddenly moved? would he have misinterpreted it as a move of aggression and shot me? i believe he would have.

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  14. It's very likely. I mean that stuff happens every other day, if not daily.

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  15. It is interesting that Datta suggests that saying or doing the wrong thing could get you shot, tased, pepper-sprayed, struck with a baton or thrown to the ground (e.g. killed). It's only after he suggests that cops should have dash cams, that he tells readers that they can refuse to submit to an improper search . Probably not intentional but a great insight into the mindset: The tone and thinking changes once these cops are aware that they might be held accountable for their actions. The police force in Ferguson have military grade weapons, armor, trucks, equipment but somehow they couldn't afford dash cams and don't wear badges for "later complaint lodging". The financial vacuum for our military industrial complex created by our real military pulling out of two wars is being filled by militarizing police departments for the internal civil war that is being intentionally fueled. Americans need to fight against the militarization and I am not suggesting being a lamb to the slaughter, but I do think Justin's commentary plays into this planned escalation by suggesting that counter violence is the best way to dismantle the system. We already have the Cliven Bundy 2nd Amendment loons gunning up on the other side in order to keep pace with those that would collect their taxes or in their imagination, take their toys away. We need to turn out at elections and we need to hold our government accountable through the political system. If you think I am being naive, so be it, but ask the British about Ghandi. Political activism is the better method for changing our course. Don't be fooled into fighting the war that is being encouraged by those who would profit from it.

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  16. I think the writing was overly aggressive talking about killing cops and etc. Obviously if it comes to that, then yeah but needless violence is part of why the cops suck. The "sue the police" line the cop wrote is classic, obviously he doesn't give a shit because he's not paying the bill…the citizens of that city are, so there's another free pass to fuck around.

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  17. on Colorado Tech's facebook page:
    Message from the University President
    August 20, 2014 at 8:10pm
    Message from University President, Andrew Hurst:

    Colorado Technical University (CTU) has a longstanding commitment to fostering a learning environment that emphasizes tolerance and respect. An adjunct instructor who has taught for CTU has posted an opinion piece that has been widely distributed and drawn significant commentary. Sunil Dutta has taught for us in the past, but has not done so since February and is not currently teaching any CTU courses. The opinions he expressed are his own and do not reflect the views of the University.

    Andrew H. Hurst
    President, Colorado Technical University

    HAHAHA! I'm sure it's a fine institution….

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  18. " Every person stopped by a cop should feel safe instead of feeling that their wellbeing is in jeopardy."

    This quote is prefaced by: "here is the bottom line: if you don’t want to get shot, tased, pepper-sprayed, struck with a baton or thrown to the ground, just do what I tell you. Don’t argue with me, don’t call me names, don’t tell me that I can’t stop you, don’t say I’m a racist pig, don’t threaten that you’ll sue me and take away my badge. Don’t scream at me that you pay my salary, and don’t even think of aggressively walking towards me."

    Seems Legit…..

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  19. Steven Pixley : Can we figger out a way to clone yer step-brother and put him in all the PDs around the US? Yes please!

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  20. We can buy military grade firearms as well. Albeit semi-automatic, they are still military grade. Also check out http://www.ar500.com they sell ballistic armor. The have a full set of level III ASC for 215 dollars.

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  21. Hmm… I dare some1 2 have a t shirt made dat says "F*CK THE POLICE!!" an' wear it wherever u go! I might do it tho.

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  22. Officer's "safety concerns" is the excuse that has been use to murder and assault citizens at will. I'm sorry, I have no concern for your safety, since you, yourselves have made it a euphemism for license to kill and injure whomever you damn well please. You've used it to justify atrocities. You have turned yourselves into an enemy of the people, an occupying authority. Fuck your safety!

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  23. you nailed it here, justin. thank you!

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  24. wow reading this PIGS comments is like reading into a mind of crazy psychotic power hungry asshole , i mean not once did he go in depth about police being accountable for there own actions or how they are meant to serve an protect us but instead all he talk about was how "they" are victims like there the ones being shot at and tased on a daily basis an how we need to obey everything they say without resistance….this cop can go straight to hell

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  25. Don't forget big brother is watching everything you do on the internet, don't be surprised when the pigs raid your home, after purchasing anything like that on the internet.

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  26. As of now, they are putting him threw hell. The crooked politicians in the town and former chief/officers are trying to run him out of town. They have started a blog full of lies and bullshit, they some how got all the sealed court documentation of his divorce and posted it in the blog, along with a dozen other sealed court docs. They have pulled my dad and step-mom into this as well and it is all I can do not to go and take care of it on the side. They follow him around record his activities, follow his kids, their kids bully his kids at school etc. It is a little town in Arizona Called Mammoth over by Tucson.

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  27. I am so sick of the police

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  28. This was a damn-good read.

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  29. Roger Whitehead I really wish I had thought of that. I could have written this as a South Park episode.

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  30. Justin King YOU ARE FUCKING AWESOME!!!!!

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  31. the person here that was doing nothing but BASHING law enforcement in GENERAL, comes across as an anarchist. The police ARE the AUTHORITY, you MUST do what they say or suffer the consequences. He should stop crying and respect authority.

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  32. I do not support criminal behavior in police officers, nor do I approve of their using verbal abuse or unnecessary intimidation tactics. I appreciate this reporter's position, and I want to respond to their article.

    I was never a police officer, but I have worked in Federal security systems, and I was trained to fill in as a security staff, if needed. I have also worked in departments that manage policing activities.

    RELEVANT FEATURES OF POLICING WORK
    I sympathize with the job that police officers do, and how their jobs can place them in emergent situations that threaten their lives, and the lives of others. I also understand how the cumulative stress of facing belligerent, rude, hostile, and "freaked out" citizens, day after day, year after year, can wear down anyone's sense of equanimity.

    Seeing the many forms of violent and other harmful acts that individuals and groups perpetuate against one another is also a major source of chronic stress for officers of the law.

    While statistically, a police officer might be less likely to be injured or killed on the job than some other professions, they do face the daily risk of serious bodily harm or death via deliberate human aggression every time that they go out on the job, and they know it.

    It can be very difficult–or impossible–for an officer to rapidly determine which angry, defensive, belligerent, confused, or verbally resistant individuals are going to be the one that suddenly turns violent, for whatever reason, or reasons.

    I also know how–and why–police are trained to use rapidly deployed, overt gestures of dominating authority to discourage the escalation of resistance in people that they encounter as they do their job. Doing so can protect the officers' lives, the lives of potential aggressors, and other citizens in the area.

    Police officers are taught that rapidly-presented dominance tactics tend to de-escalate a potentially harmful encounter. They are taught that it is giving the impression of unquestionable authority in any potentially harmful encounter is what most public policing is all about.

    For the most part, that is true, and it works.

    It only takes one wrong encounter to end a police officer's life through violent acts, or that of their partner, or other residents in the area. It only takes a second or two for someone to pull a hand gun or other weapon, and to use it to kill their child, their spouse, themselves, or an officer of the law, and it can be impossible to know who will do that–or when they will do it.

    An aggressor can also suddenly begin trying to use boxing or martial arts moves to harm others, including using techniques designed to maim or kill others.

    Just as a miner, trash collector, highway construction crew member, or people in other professions that contain inherent physical safety risks have procedures that they are trained to follow to minimize those risks, so do police officers. The risks that people encounter in most non-law enforcement positions are usually less varied than those typically faced by police officers, however, and they tend to be less random in occurrence.

    If you have ever been confronted by an individual who is threatening to use violence against you, or who is actively doing so, then you know how tense–and potentially problematic–that situation can be, and how fast it happens.

    Unlike the typical risks that miners, trash collectors, and highway construction crew members face, policing safety risks tend to cover a wider range of possibilities, including a wide range of risks that can be difficult or impossible to anticipate until they are occurring.

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  33. REASONABLE REQUIREMENTS FOR EMPLOYMENT IN POLICING JOBS
    Because of the nature of the risks and stresses they face on the job, I believe that all policing officers, including prison and jail guards, should be required to regularly take refresher classes in effective, nonviolent situation management.

    I believe that no police officer should remain in high-pressure street, prison, or undercover investigative beats for too long. Rotation is critical to reduce burnout and abuse of citizens.

    I believe police officers in high-pressure street, prison, or undercover investigative beats should receive extra compensation, just as the military provides "hazard pay" to its members who serve in higher risk jobs and working environments.

    Extra compensation can reduce the incidence of officers who work in higher risk environments from engaging in graft, bribery, drug dealing, etc. to compensate themselves while they put themselves at higher risk than those who work in less-risky environments. It also shows that they are appreciated for the stresses that they endure in work environments that are more prone to incidents of random danger to the officer.

    I believe that officers in those types of working environments should be required to go to individual and group counseling on a semi-annual basis with highly-qualified, mental health professionals who are not part of the formal policing system.

    The results of those sessions should be required to be delivered to their supervisors, if there is a problem that warrants it. This is a common practice for those who currently work in critical national defense and intelligence positions, when they are required to undergo periodic psychiatric reviews to ensure that they are still qualified to manage the stresses of their jobs.

    I believe that all officers of the law should be required to wear body cameras at all times on the job, and that turning them off should be a firing offense. I believe that any officer who turns off their camera should also be subject to prosecution for tampering with evidence.

    I believe that all body camera footage should be made available within 24-72 hours to citizens who are a part of any police encounter, including prisoners in any incarceration environment, because it is evidence that can be used in the management of their case.

    I believe that all problematic encounters on an officer's shift should be required to be viewed by a qualified person who is not formally affiliated with the police system, and a detailed written report of it generated, within 24-72 hours of the event.

    I believe that any unreasonable loss of–or any deliberate alteration of camera footage, or reports related to them–should be grounds for immediate dismissal of charges against individuals, because they cannot get a fair hearing without full and unaltered evidence. This will also ensure that the police actually do keep their cameras on, and that they stop tampering with evidence to hide their own crimes.

    I believe that all officers who show a tendency to use excessive force–including verbal abuse–against the people that they are paid to serve and protect should be fired, and banned from ever serving in law enforcement anywhere. They should also be prosecuted for their actions. Any officer who knowingly fails to report these behaviors in other officers should also be fired, and banned from ever serving in law enforcement anywhere. They should be prosecuted for being an accessory, as well.

    I believe that all officers who show racist, sexist, or other forms of unreasonable prejudicial belief systems–on or off the job–should be fired, and banned from ever serving in law enforcement anywhere. Any officer who knowingly fails to report these behaviors in other officers should also be fired, and banned from ever serving in law enforcement anywhere.

    I believe that any officer who commits sexual assault or intimidation, or engages in other serious forms of criminal activity should be fired, banned from ever serving in law enforcement anywhere and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law (although a lot of this stuff will stop if cops wear cameras while on-duty). Any officer who knowingly fails to report these behaviors in other officers should also be fired, and banned from ever serving in law enforcement anywhere. They should be prosecuted for being an accessory, as well.

    If all police candidates learn that these are the conditions of their employment from the time that they enter officer training, and they are regularly made aware of these conditions of employment, then they can do a better job of being officers of the law.

    Those who want to be paid thugs who abuse the people who pay their salary with their taxes will be more likely to choose other avenues of employment.

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  34. Steven Pixley: is Mammoth in Maricopa County? If so, that SUCKS. Sheriff Arpaio HATES guys like yer bro, mainly because Arpaio "serves" his constituency by walking all over the Bill of Rights, for which yer brother obviously has deep respect. If I was involved in that situation, I'd be certain to document EVERYTHING and ANYTHING the crooks moving against yer bro say and/or do, especially if it seems shady (like yer bro's sealed court documents somehow magically appearing online). The more documentation you have, the better off you are: it's much easier to build a case based on documented facts than on hearsay.

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  35. I don't feel I was bashing law enforcement in general, I was speaking using the same generalizations as Professor Dutta. You make the word "anarchist" sound like a bad thing. lol. Police officers are only an authority when they are acting in accordance with law and natural rights. When they fail to do so, they are not an authority; they are an oppressive regime and people have a moral obligation to resist.

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  36. I'm really just lucky enough to have a platform that is gracious enough to give me space, but thank you.

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  37. Justin King while I understand on one hand what you are saying, you systematically through your blow by blow retorts to every paragraph that Dutta wrote, took away ANY kind of action for the police to use on those who are not complying. Anarchy IS a bad thing. Remember the Rodney King riots? Anarchy brings chaos. We have laws so we can protect the meek and innocent. I am a liberal but I do believe in order. Thanks for replying. I like that much better than other people coming back at me.

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  38. Great piece of writing Justin King.I agree with all of your points.Keep up the good work bro!!Just sad to see what the gov't and police have done to our once proud land.

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  39. i have had one bad experience with a cop out of the maybe 5 times i've been pulled over in my life and that was just having handcuffs put on to tight (enough to cause my wrist to bleed)i have always been polite and respectful the way i was brought up i am that way to every one until they give me a reason not to be. i said that to say this. i have a cc permit and i carry every where even to church if it's illegal to carry someplace i dont go there. if i feel my or my families life is in danger even in the slightest way i will not take a chance i will defend myself with deadly force and i do not begrudge anyone even a cop that same right to go home with their loved ones

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  40. Very well written and so true. We need to never cooperate with these armed thugs with badges who just want to write tickets and arrest people for bullshit so they can make their quota and make overtime. Fuck all of them they ain't shit!!

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  41. To be honest Jane, we don't even know if Chris Dorner did anything that he was accused of. Remember all we had was the police's word that he did it. There was no true evidence presented other than a rant that he wrote. There were no witnesses to the shootings that had took place. And rather than actually trying to apprehend him the dirty SBCS office cops set the home he was in on fire. So here we are again left with a massive man hunt where the LAPD was shooting at women and running reckless with their guns shooting at anything that moved.

    If Dorner did anything other than shoot back at the army of cops that were shooting at him we will never know because we have learned one thing. Dirty cops will intimidate and bully good cops to make them go along for the ride. It should come to no surprise that our police officers the communities that they police like the IDF that they were trained under. It should come as no surprise that Palestinians were standing in protest and understand what it means to be treated as subhuman by an occupying force. Many Americans have been trying to tell the majority, but America and the world had to see it up close and personal for anyone to get up off their arse to show that is a serious problem.

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  42. Phipps Mike I would suggest that lawlessness and anarchy aren't necessarily the same thing, but it is interesting to note that the other example of widespread lawlessness was also triggered by police misconduct. When the police kill more than one person per day (those are the stats), they shouldn't expect compliance and forcing compliance to an officer's whims isn't really protecting the meek.

    Violence is a tool that if used professionally, is valuable. When used unprofessionally, it begets more violence. Dutta was not demanding respect for law and order. He was demanding submission to a badge, whether or right or wrong. I can't stay silent when someone advocates that.

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  43. Justin King Just wanted to add something:
    "police use fear as a weapon and attempt to intimidate the populace with armored vehicles, black uniforms, no-knock raids, military tactics, "

    I do believe that started when many more thugs started toting AR-15's and sub machine guns as their AVERAGE arsenal. A police unit must use BIGGER and better weapons than who they are going against to be successful.

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  44. Justin King This is an interesting topic you have here. By default , we ARE to submit to the badge if we are in any open investigation where we are the suspects. The law is ABOVE us in that situation, For safety purposes, they have their policies of how to handle things. The disagreement always comes on what is deemed "necessary force". Bad cops seem to think that overkill is justified when its not. Good cops know it just means to use whatever force is necessary to APPREHEND (not kill) the suspect.
    I agree it has become way out of control the last couple or 3 years where we are getting a lot of bad cops.
    I would venture to say that there are probably too many cops hired these days that dont have the courage or temperament to be a cop but they get hired anyway. In a lot of instances, all you had to be was a part of the armed forces to be a quick pre-requisite to be able to be considered for as job as a cop.
    I do believe they should as a solution, they should toughen up the requirements to becoming a cop and including psychological testing…etc…

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  45. October Studios, the article would not allow me to "continue reading" your reply to my comment. I am not sure I understand the point you were trying to make but I was insinuating that if you are a "good cop" like Chris Dorner you may wind up getting harassed or killed by the "bad cops" if you try to expose the corruption . Steven Pixleys step brother is currently experiencing those same effects for exposing corruption within his dept. I hope he has supporters other than his family because it will most assuredly get worse before it gets better.

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  46. Ya' know, as a life long liberal/progressive I believe that you cannot paint one entire group with the same paint brush. Because there are the bad apples who are garnering all the attention. Good news doesn't sell newspapers. THAT HAVING BEEN SAID there is clear evidence that the police of today are different than when I grew up. (I am 62) It used to be that the police were part of the community and had accepted the job of protecting that community from criminals. With the militarization of the police it seems they are taught that everyone is a potential enemy and that the wrong word or phrase or action and you are considered an enemy to be crushed. Very happy I live in Mexico.

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  47. October Studios The "manhunt" for Dorner was, in NO way, an attempt to apprehend a fugitive. It was a straight-up effort to end a life, because dead men tell no tales.

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  48. Correction:
    Those that can, do.
    Those that can't become cops.

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  49. Steven Pixley … Your step-brother sounds like a good man, which he is, before being a good police officer, kudos.

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  50. What garbage….one person expresses his personal views and this guy goes nuts. I wonder how many times he has been robed? I have lostcount. The cops can shoot all of them as far as I'm concerned.

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  51. A mentality that is identical to that of a mafioso or gang-banger. Citizens have become civilians, police have become military, and We The People have become the enemy.

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  52. John Schmitt, Mammoth is in Pinal County I believe. Not too sure but I believe it is.

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  53. Do people really expect much from a kid who's major accomplishment was graduating from a six month long academy? And on top of that had ptsd and is mentally unstable in society?

    Its a shame but unless you get normal educated people to run a department these losers will keep hiring losers because they hire people that have the same personalities as themselves

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