An Open Letter to People Who Think the Police Accountability Movement is Built on Hate

December 23, 2014   |   Cassius Methyl

Cassius Methyl
December 23, 2014

(TheAntiMedia) This is a message to Allen Clifton, co-founder of Forward Progressives, and anyone else who labels the police accountability movement dangerous and hateful. Us ‘anti-government activists’ as you called us, protesters, cop watchers, cop blockers, members of the civil rights movement; we are not hate groups as you recently proclaimed, despite being thoroughly told you are wrong in the comment section of your own article. You join the ranks of other “journalists” like Bill O’Reilly who recently attacked Cop Block and others who film the police.

You just made the declaration that the motivation for our work comes from hate. You say Cop Block is a hate group and not a police accountability group, but i am writing this to break down the simple reason why we, and the millions of people who think this way, understand that the government and police are something that should be opposed. We do not want police accountability because we hate the police, we want it because we are opposed to hate.

You also insulted the intelligence of liberals, your own supposed constituents I presume, saying in your article:

A few months ago I wrote an article warning liberals that they were being duped by many of these so-called “police accountability” websites and Facebook pages. I explained that by buying into their propaganda, these liberals were basically supporting radical anti-government right-wing groups. What these various organizations try to do is attempt to hide their contempt for government behind their supposed desire to “hold police officers accountable.” But their clear disdain for law enforcement is just a part of their overall intense hatred of authority and the government.

Perhaps the most well-known of all of these groups is Cop Block. On Facebook, they list themselves under the category of an “Education Website,” which is absolute nonsense. They’re not out to educate, inform or hold anyone accountable – they’re out to slander police officers”

Well, first of all Cop Block is not right wing, or left. Second, it’s fueled by a detailed collective understanding of the dysfunctional and overall negative effect the police and government have on our people. Insulting the intelligence of people reading content on Cop Block as if they have no ability to make decisions for themselves perfectly illustrates your disconnection from reality and predisposition to support government, despite it being dysfunctional and immoral.

But perhaps most importantly, you apparently don’t know the definition of ‘slander’.

Cop Block and us here at The Anti-Media, we do not publish things about the police or government that are not true . Ever. Therefore, that’s not slander,  you don’t know what you’re taking about. Not only that, but you just said something untrue about Cop Block. That is the actual definition of slander!

Our views as ‘anti-government’ activists come from much knowledge, much research, much effort to understand everything. For example, we research statistics on casualties from the US Government, and we track their crimes and report on them to illustrate the true nature of the US Government.

If they did nothing wrong, we would have nothing to write about. Of course personally we don’t just cover negative or controversial things at The Anti-Media, but my point is this; once a person starts critically thinking, questioning standards, they open up doors and start to believe things that don’t vibe well with previous false preconceived notions.

Allen, it seems like you are stuck with cognitive dissonance, and you have some form of illogical bias to support the US Government, with no regard for whether or not supporting them will result in a more prosperous future for you and your family, your kids, my kids, and all the rest of us.

We are here to tell you the facts about corruption, expose the crimes of powerful people and police who they command, for nothing more than the betterment of our society. It’s just a better place to live in when police aren’t killing unarmed, innocent people with impunity. It’s that simple, but you had to claim it was ‘hate’.

If you would look at this from the right perspective, you would see more people every day are agreeing upon being ‘anti-government’ because government in America is downright malicious, corrupt, overbearing, murderous, and war mongering. That’s the pattern when a government is corrupt, it’s incredibly simple.

Isn’t it the duty of the people of a society to oppose anything that bears those characteristics and functions to destroy peace and prosperity? If you really want to claim the US Government does not bear all the characteristics of a wolf in sheep’s clothing, there are indisputable facts, incidents, previous actions of the US government and police, that illustrate a long history of downright immorality. These are the facts that separate our detailed perspectives from yours.

Those of us who you call ‘anti-government’, most of us are simply individuals who took extra time to read about history, read about things, and we came to the logical conclusion that the US government and most current police have a consistently negative impact on society. What do you possibly think you know about us?

What we do as activists is not simply spew hatred like you claim, (or spew hatred towards other organizations randomly like you just did) but we are truly, genuinely looking to better the world we live in, and that involves opposing greed, malice, corruption, and violence no matter where it originates.

Right now, a new generation is coming of age, and this generation (that I am a part of), did not grow up with the kind of propaganda you did.

Obviously mainstream media causes cognitive dissonance, and disconnection from reality, which is required to support authority while completely disregarding the morality of that authority. Does it benefit our society to embellish and trust that authority? No, we never really saw the era of time you did, where there mainstream media had substantial power to warp issues and convince people to support the US government.

Instead, we grew up in an era of the internet, where we always had the ability to fact check and logically destroy preconceived notions, stereotypes, biases, ect.

We are a generation that witnessed the wars of aggression in the Middle East at an early age, and saw the malicious, parasitic nature of government in circumstances that allowed us to truly, truly understand them, to clearly see the true moral character of the establishment and government. At least right now I am speaking for my generation, Cop Blockers span all generations and demographics.

We became ‘anti-government’ through objective analysis of the governments actions, it is that simple. Do you not oppose something once you realize it incarcerates non violent people, kills thousands of innocent children in the middle east with drones, and commits unfathomable, unspeakable atrocity after atrocity, with impunity, while convincing people like you that it’s okay?

For you to support the US government, and completely overlook the reasons why we believe what we do, you have to ignore every single crime committed by the government. To disregard our hard earned perspectives and ‘anti government’ beliefs, you have to disregard all US drone strikes that killed innocent children, the incredible amount of people incarcerated for decades for non violent crimes, and every instance of injustice.

If we were to debate on the morality of the US Government, I would calmly shut down every last argument you could possibly fathom, and I would present you with irrefutable evidence of the immorality and general parasitic nature of the government because it needs to be changed for the betterment of our society, our children, and our children’s children.

At that point in this hypothetical debate, you would have no choice but to openly say you still support the US Government despite every instance of them inflicting unfathomable pain on innocent human beings, or you would have to change your opinion. It is at this point that you would probably not change your opinion, as people tend to do when they are stuck with a mental illness called cognitive dissonance.

So, that’s a little breakdown of why we believe what we do. We do not just trust the status quo or general consensus on issues, we think freely; critical thinking, it’s not taught in public school. We tend to form our own opinions rather than stick with some vague standard that allows for corruption, death, abuse of power, and countless other negative things for our society.

No matter how much you want to write about how we are filled with hate, or that we’re unreasonable, no one is going to believe you except the few who are just as deluded as you.

Want proof of this? Just look at the comments on the two articles you wrote slandering our movement. Almost none of them agree with you; almost all of them understand the simple things I am trying to get across to you with this article.

The fact is, the US government has more people incarcerated than any regime in the history of the world. If you did not know that fact, do some research on the prison industrial complex. Do some research, and understand the full scope of our collective situation with abusive police who kill with impunity, understand the full scope of the situation with corruption in America, understand how the families of people needlessly killed by police feel, and understand every single thing that we have painstakingly set out to learn and understand.

It requires  an ability to completely change your opinions, in favor of new facts and information, admitting you are wrong when you are proven to be wrong, to go from supporting the US Government, to understanding their detrimental negative effect on our society and how we need to change that.

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So, delving into the realm of possibility after a person understands the US Government is inherently immoral and toxic to the prosperity of people not just in our country but all over the world;

What do we actually want to do about all of this police brutality, and the government?

That is up for debate. Some want to see the federal government and state governments be completely shut down in favor of community rule, like the towns in Southwestern Mexico (who have had excellent, excellent results with community rule).

We all have different philosophical ideas of an ideal society, as ‘anti-government’ activists, but overall what we wish to replace the US Government (or not replace them) with is up for debate. If you ask any ‘anti-government’ activist or cop blocker what their ideal version of a society should be, you should expect a long and detailed answer.

See, while it’s pretty inconsequential what you believe about us, I’m going to respond to your efforts to slander us because that can’t just be ignored. I would like to take the opportunity to express what we are really about; we are about depth, thinking, acting with the most defined of intentions, improving our society and seeking prosperity and peace for our families and people just like anyone else.

I wrote this to help people like you, who misunderstand the movement, to see that there is a depth to what we are doing that goes far beyond your perception of it.

We are thinkers, philosophers, activists and people concerned for the state of our society and world.

We are not blindly hateful people, like you disrespectfully alluded to in your two articles about us, and I hope that has just been made abundantly clear.

To everyone who agrees, please share this with absolutely as many people as possible.

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Author: Cassius Methyl

Cassius Methyl joined Anti-Media as an independent journalist in March of 2014. His topics of interest include thinking, creating a future, deep spirituality, and astrology. He resides in Sacramento, California.

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  1. So buy into your propaganda and then everything is ok??? Talk about some useful idiots that are going to make sure martial law is brought down upon us. Think your rights are trampled on now?? Martial law you have no rights. You guys are going to make possible what you claim to want to prevent. Useful idiots same as Russell Brand. Why do you think state run media don't censor you??? Fucking idiots

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  3. There is nothing as hateful as the rhetoric and dogma that spews out of these "so called" Republicans, It is only on their sites like 2 million bikers to DC and impeach Nancy Pelosi that I read the most hateful comments and the statements lacking in compassion. They really need to look at the stuff they post on their sites.

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  4. This fool thinks the state run media (His own words hahaha) doesn't censor things. Oh brother, the stupidity of that statement…

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  5. Well, we can't call it a hate group since that's not what it is, can we?

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  6. What a close minded dumbass, I'm not even going to provide a counter argument, you clearly are delusional.

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  7. This is an excellent rebuttal. Kudos! :-)

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  8. Aaron, another dumb redneck heard from. Murica! I am so goddamn proud when folks like you speak up for freedom. NOT!!!!

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  9. this is what they – the ignorant what ever you are do…… resort to name calling and / or telling others to SHUT UP! no intelligent response to the conversation – just a-hole – idiot – and I'm sooo scared of my own shadow that I'd rather follow – like sheep to slaughter – then stand up for what I know in my heart is the truth. Patriotism comes from patriots questioning the establishment – sacrificing themselves for the betterment of the whole. NOT trying to mold it into thoughtless drones as you would have us do Aaron Withrow. So to you my fine sir i say go fuck yourself with a rake!

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  10. Jason Olszanicky "Why are you so afraid of 1776 version 2.0?"

    there is not going to BE a 1776 v. 2.0 go ahead, start an insurrection against this government with their military and technology. you'd be hunted down and wiped out, all the while, the people will see you as terrorists because they are conditioned to believe whatever the media tells them.

    and those rebuttals to Aaron are quite well thought out and reasonable. no, don't tell him WHY he might be wrong. no, y'all just call him dumb ass, idiot, and fool. GREAT way to make yourselves seem reasonable and intelligent.

    he's wrong that they are going to BRING martial law on us. we're ALREADY there. we are LIVING in a police state.

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  11. Scott Kosterow I'll giveyou credit for at least admitting how scared you are of the government and the police state. Most cop suckers call us anti-cop protestors unable to live without the police… never mind that we all can and would happily live without them. Personal accountability, as they say.

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  12. Anthony Carter who said I was scared i think you miss read my friend – i have no fear of anything these pricks could do to me or mine – I've seen combat as well as the inside of a prison cell. bring it the fuck on is what i say! they cant do anything that hasn't already been done. i think we can and would police ourselves. i think that government should be there ONLY to protect us from what we CAN'T do for ourselves. IE. Mexico decided to invade. i think that government should be open handed – stop the lies, deceit and secretes in the name of security. the only security that they provide is for them selves NOT for us. I feel bad because i truly believe that there ARE good cops out there. i guess my human condition will not allow me to believe that there isn't ONE out there. this site cop-block and others like it are only bringing to light what has been going on in this country since '33. but what do i know?

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  13. Anthony Carter "never mind that we all can and would happily live without them. Personal accountability, as they say."

    there NEVER be no police forces. get rid off the state run police, and private, for hire to the highest bidder, police forces would take their place. and who has the kind of money to fund, train, and equip police forces? it is the rich and the elite. the corporate masters. yes, let's give them DIRECT control over the police.

    if there were no police, I know SEVERAL people that would have NO problem taking what belongs to you, up to and including your life. I know people that would no longer be living because no one would be able to effectively punish them. oh, the "community" would protect itself? please. most people want to go to work, go home, watch their shows, play online, spend time with their families and keep to themselves.

    see, I don't FEAR the police state because I know it exists and that things are not the way the used to be. you have to not antagonize them. you be respectful of people with authority because, well, they can KILL you (call that authority "illegitimate" all you want, doesn't negate the authority the have.

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  14. Kylee Michelle Fraser Janes-Mazeikis while i see the point Kylee thats NOT authority – authority in the sense of government at least in this country is what WE GIVE them as a nation – not what they decide to grab for them selves. I think that's Nationalism / Totalitarianism. but hey what do i know?

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  15. It's Time We Start Calling Forward Progressives What It Actually Is: An Open Air Prison Police State Supporter.

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  16. Don't worry! I can like Cop BlockI suck Israel balls at the same time. No need to panic when when the sheep are fighting back.

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  17. Every thing has an accountability measurement. Even the military. Why shouldn't the Law Enforcement?

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  18. How is pointing out all the illegal things the cops do and demanding accountability for those illegal actions. Make them a hate group. They don't say go kill cops anywhere on their page. You're idiots.

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  19. thanks!

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  20. nice post – but chances are anyone who thinks the way they do about cop block, won't even read this and will just completely ignore it.

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  21. Paulus Maxuimus Ramirez i think i'm deep on the list haha. i just wrote this article

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  22. media is corporation run u tool. already you have proven you are ineptitude for this conversation.

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  23. Teizell Jordan "media is corporation run u tool. already you have proven you are ineptitude for this conversation."

    you know, when participating in an adult conversation, proper spelling and grammar make you much more credible…

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  24. Aaron Whitrow What a brainwashed dumbass you are. If pigs can violate yr rights or murder civilians LIKE THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN DOING, then you ALREADY don't have rights, you traitorous POS. Fucking idiot!!!

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  25. Just stop. Anyone who believes in the fake game of "Left vs Right" is an easily led zombie and has proven they are gullible idiots. BOTH criminal cartels have betrayed We the People!!

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  26. Vic Santana be nice to them Santa i mean it is x-mass and all and they cant help that there all sheeple!

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  27. Just as a minor bit of introspective criticism (I am a regular copblock reader, and find it generally informative) – I would agree that CopBlock doesn't generally post distortions or untruths, but it does occasionally post poorly-attributed, poorly-sourced articles such as the 'Conspiracy Theory on Social Media Suggests NYPD Killed 2 Cops to Drum Up Support' piece a few days back (https://www.facebook.com/CopBlock/posts/10152974219118189). Pieces/reshares like that that amount to 'I heard it from a guy on the Internet' hurt CopBlock's credibility.

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  28. Truth sounds like hate for those whom hate the TRUTH. COP BLOCK DOES TELL THE TRUTH DEAL WITH IT

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  29. Kylee Michelle Fraser Janes-Mazeikis Never forget that in 1776 we was just a bunch of farmers fighting the greatest military at that time and what happened? Never think you can't do something, and if you want to believe that way don't stand in front of those that are doing it.

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  30. Whoever says cop block is not educational and is hate this that n the third get the hell outta here it is there to educate people on the crooked cops it is there to follow them and educate people of the police that are committing crimes and getting away with it and as far as hate we hate that the crooked police get away with their horrible crimes it's not fair you say everyone should be held accountable for their actions yet you let these crooked cops go free right back to do it all over again cuz they know they won't be caught or punished you say it's out fault the police are being killed cause of our so called hate speech aka freedom if speech yet it's really YOUR own fault the officers are at fault they are putting the target on them selves by continuing to commit crimes and hurt people and get away with it by doing that your making it ok for violence and people are seeing it and getting enraged at the police an how careless they are so stop blaming cop block !!!! KICK ROCKS!! K thanks :)

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  31. Good Job, I agree that you are not a gate group, but that like with everything in life, some people make comments that fuel the notion that you are a hate group. I myself would like to see more information on how to hold the police and government accountable within the realm of my one sense of accountability for these individuals that should be
    Accountable to the people. I have learned much by reading your posts but I also see that sometimes people go to far. We need answers, we need direction on how to make that change from hate to accountability.

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  32. Anarchists can always justify their behavior. You need an editor to cut this poorly written screed down so it makes sense.

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  33. Vic Santana I got that message many years ago, but just in this instance I was pointing out how the right portrays the demonstrations for police to stop killing people as "hate group", when in fact they have a lot of hate towards anybody who does not like their fascist ideology. And minorities.

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  34. Annie Guevara Examples?

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  35. I'm a little older than the current new generation. On the bubble you might say. I'm proud as hell of the new generation. Keep it up!!! Change the world!!! Make it better!!! Thanks for the article.
    And to all activists out there, bless you. You're doing the "just" thing. I pitch in what little bit I can. The world must change. I'm glad it's finally happening. Thanks again.

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  36. Annie Guevara I see you like to drop one or two word phrases and then drop out of the conversation. Who are you to demand another respond to your "let me see what is in your head" routine. If you have something to say, then say it. Otherwise, keep that childish, junior high school mentality out of in depth discussions. And if you're a UofM graduate, and I am one, I'm surprised you don't know better.

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  37. Mitch Mitchell You are right. So called Tea Partiers are proving to be some of the biggest hypocritical brainwashed bigots that I've ever seen. I somewhat supported them but they are proving to be Neo-con Lite. The democrats are doing their own part in this BS by making it an ethnic thing instead of calling it what it truly is, a police state thing. Pigs are being trained and told that they are in a "war". So naturally, the "enemy" is anyone who's NOT a pig. Its Pigs vs Us.

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  38. Annie Guevara wrong. If they did, then there'd be no question whether to charge a pig w/ murder. They'd just do it. But politics get in the way and since pigs work w/ lawyers and judges, they cut backroom deals. If civilians were accused of the same crime, they'd be charged and there would be no hesitation.

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  39. Annie Guevara And What is that ? a broken grand Jury system?

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  40. Annie Guevara – some day you'll provide some examples of the accountability police have. What we see, for the most part, is denial of any wrong doing coming from all the leadership, self investigation (We investigated ourselves and found we did nothing wrong), and the most common 'punishment' is paid vacation. Some rare cases where the lawful abuses are undeniable we see some lose their job with no lawful charges. It's a crap system of abuse. We're done with it.

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  41. Arron – cut down on the fluoride intake. You are basically saying do not voice opposition because if you do they government will be worse. In short, you implicitly agree with everything this article said about the government being corrupt.

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  42. Kylee Michelle Fraser Janes-Mazeikis 'Not antagonize them"? I could post examples all day every day where pigs weren't the least bit antagonized but they murdered innocent civilians anyway. As for their authority, it has limits even if the pigs themselves ignore them. The law supports fighting an illegal arrest and there is plenty of case law to support that..
    “An arrest made with a defective warrant, or one issued without affidavit, or one that fails to allege a crime is within jurisdiction, and one who is being arrested, may resist arrest and break away. If the arresting officer is killed by one who is so resisting, the killing will be no more than an involuntary manslaughter.” Housh v. People, 75 111. 491; reaffirmed and quoted in State v. Leach, 7 Conn. 452; State v. Gleason, 32 Kan. 245; Ballard v. State, 43 Ohio 349; State v Rousseau, 241 P. 2d 447; State v. Spaulding, 34 Minn. 3621.

    “An illegal arrest is an assault and battery. The person so attempted to be restrained of his liberty has the same right to use force in defending himself as he would in repelling any other assault and battery.” (State v. Robinson, 145 ME. 77, 72 ATL. 260).

    “Each person has the right to resist an unlawful arrest. In such a case, the person attempting the arrest stands in the position of a wrongdoer and may be resisted by the use of force, as in self-defense.” (State v. Mobley, 240 N.C. 476, 83 S.E. 2d 100).

    “One may come to the aid of another being unlawfully arrested, just as he may where one is being assaulted, molested, raped or kidnapped. Thus it is not an offense to liberate one from the unlawful custody of an officer, even though he may have submitted to such custody, without resistance.” (Adams v. State, 121 Ga. 16, 48 S.E. 910).

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  43. Nick Bassett " Never forget that in 1776 we was just a bunch of farmers fighting the greatest military at that time and what happened? "

    ah, but we also had the help of France and Russia with naval forces and arms. the revolutionary war was NOT a purely colonial effort. we had ALLIES. otherwise, we may have lost that war and still have been British colonialists.

    Russian involvement in the American Revolutionary War

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Empire%E2%80%93United_States_relations#Russian_involvement_in_the_American_Revolutionary_War

    French Alliance, French Assistance, and European Diplomacy during the American Revolution, 1778–1782

    https://history.state.gov/milestones/1776-1783/french-alliance

    France in the American Revolutionary war

    http://europeanhistory.about.com/od/warsinnorthamerica/a/franceandtheARW.htm

    funny people forget we had FRANCE helping us beat the british.

    also, at the time, the british didn't have drones, helicopters, satellites, APCs, or tanks. communications were MUCH more private and had to be PHYSICALLY intercepted. we had roughly equal types of weapons as them. what the American government has now they could bring against usmakes them WAY more powerful then Britain was in 1775 when we went to war.

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  44. Vic Santana " 'Not antagonize them"? I could post examples all day every day where pigs weren't the least bit antagonized but they murdered innocent civilians anyway. As for their authority, it has limits even if the pigs themselves ignore them. The law supports fighting an illegal arrest and there is plenty of case law to support that.. "

    oh, I'll admit that sometimes police DO kill people without the person antagonizing them. (girl shot in head during a swat raid on the wrong home for example) and those police officers SHOULD face justice. but there are also a LOT of videos I have seen that the results would have been different if the person had passively gone along with the police when arrested. if it is some BS charges, you'll be out quickly and THEN you can fight their actions. sure, LEGALLY you can resist, but that don't make it a good idea. just don't resist because in this day, if you do, you may end up shot or beaten to death.

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  45. Vic Santana You are correct. I've only voted GOP when I did vote. I don't vote for any of them now… and I've always had a bit of 'left' and 'right' in my thinking and still do… just don't buy into the corrupt state.

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  46. Felons can vote, after their debt to society is paid. Should they not be able to?

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  47. Micheal Bigelow not necessarily can we vote, it depends on where you are and even then you don't get to vote across the board

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  48. Kylee Michelle Fraser Janes-Mazeikis that may be true but we have Crips, Bloods, the Mafia's, ex – Military members and were better armed then you might think

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  49. Kylee Michelle Fraser Janes-Mazeikis so we should cower to the establishment so that it can be rectified LATER? that makes no sense either. and there are ALOT more instances then what you name – there not isolated – this is rampant it has been for many years only now through the use of social media has it become exposed. a patriot does not cower because of fear of being beaten or jailed. many of our fore-fathers suffered – because freedom (true freedom) does not come free. I was once told by a very wise man (Miss you Pop) that when things are free, fast or easy it's probably not what you want. the road that we are on will not be easy. and it will come with great sacrifice, not just on our end but there end as well. it will become a matter of whom has the will to persevere. that will be the question. its not even a matter of IF, now its a matter of what will ignite it. every country in the history of the world MUST have internal revolution every 200 years. its the cycle. (feel free to look it up) because man has the ability to forget his past, instead of learning from it.

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  50. You and the author of this article are idiots, because they're clearly not talking about the links posted by Cop Block itself — they're talking about the pictures with 800+ "likes" that are the top comment and say things like "all my heroes kill police" , or some other random statement or meme about how Cops need to die. This is what people who call Cop Block a hate group are referring to.

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  51. I read it, and I feel that while Cop Block was once a good informative page to have liked on FB, I have to agree that it has in fact become a hate group. If no one pays attention to this article it's because it is very poorly written, and addresses absolutely nothing. It honestly reads like an angry teenager wrote it. Anyways. . This is coming from a person who is strongly against police brutality and political corruption, but I also know that it's ignorant to think a majority of any race or class is the same. I am well aware that there are 5 good cops to every 1 bad (I use the term "good" loosely, everyone has bad quirks to them, including police.)

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  52. Actually it's terribly written and has exactly 0 solid counter-points. Just looks like an angry teenager got mad his Facebook page is catching heat.

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  53. The pictures are just proof of the accusations. Otherwise it's his word over the officers. Although that would be nice for once instead of the other way.

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  54. The pics are just proof of the accusations against them otherwise. It's just someone making accusations. Most police are corrupt pussies. Once you get over that the rest is downhill.

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  55. Tanner Reed they don't accept that on their page. it's clearly talking about the comments on the page? no, the 'Forward Progressive' author who i just called out did not mention that once. go check cop block, they don't tolerate that anymore, they don't advocate that philosophy. I wrote this article

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  56. Tanner Reed I addressed the exact reasons why we believe what we do, calling out the misinterpretation of our philosophies bit by bit, addressing everything. if you don't think it's relatively comprehensive, i guess you don't agree with this at all, but you can't say there wasn't meaning in it. that's all i was trying to do, explain that there is nothing but good intention behind us, you know.

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  57. that's absolutely something i want to delve deeper into in the future. i wish we knew exactly what to do to make them more accountable, but for now I am writing about why we need to hold them accountable. I consider that to be the first step, which we are well into, as people of a society trying to make it better, more peaceful.. more aware

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  58. thanks man! I wrote this

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  59. Tanner Reed from a superman cartoon movie:

    Superman: You can't just murder people and call yourselves heroes

    villain: why not? your government does it all the time

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  60. Vic Santana accept liberals are right of center capitalists, vic. they have no problem with free trade or the private ownership of the means of production. FYI

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  61. funny. that's what the government and corporations do, not anarchists.

    "You see here, where we wrote in to the law that only allows us to legally embezzle?"

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  62. Annie Guevara Yeah, they get their 'accountability'. It's called killing with impunity and getting a pension. Keep cop sucking though. You like it.

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  63. Cassius Methyl you're doing great work – I saw and understood the points you've addressed, and I thank you for what you're doing. Cop Block has posted some old stories, or slightly "misinformed" stories, but it's always up to you, the reader to fact check everything, and cop block doesn't hate you for fact checking their posts =)

    also, they do make it a point to consistently point out, they are NOT hateful of the police, but the actions of what seems a majority of them across the country – which is a difference.

    the cop block followers however have come out with some outright nasty comments, and other groups similar to cop block have made their own memes that have been featured either on cop block's page directly or indirectly via comments section from other users.

    all this said – cop block, and even the anti media is still… another source of media! the people behind it are only human and prone to error or misinformation – and differing opinions as well. just do your part and fact check if something doesn't add up to you?

    thanks, and have a happy holiday

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  64. Yeah! According to this article I do not suffer from cognitive dissonance! Admiting my mistakes and being the "bigger man" is a hard road to travel!

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  65. A bully can instigate a fight according to his plan successfully, it doesn't mean he won't regret the decision to do so.

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  66. They don't accept it but it's the #1 comment on every post? Well, not anymore now im seeing "this page has gotten fucking stupid" which is a breath of fresh air. Ok, Cassius since you're apparently a journalist you should be able to comprehend and accurately decipher other articles. Although that was never your point when you wrote this I'm sure. When the Cop Block page gets called a hate groupthey aaren't talking about the links a page shares they are talking about the collective minds of the group that is ON the page. That would be loads of ignorant followers that don't even readarticles and form their own opinions. They talk of murdering police & their families like it's acceptable. I thought the whole movement was to stop senseless killing of innocent people — not provoke it?

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  67. Cassius Methyl This Tanner Reed is obviously a troll, stop feeding the troll. He obviously either did not read your article or the one's published against cop block, he's using disinformation about others who like the Cop Block facebook page to try to turn the original forward progressives article into an article about guilt by association which that article never hinted at. This is a logical fallacy called special pleading that is often used by trolls. See https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/special-pleading – suggestions: ignore the troll :)

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  68. Omg so well written. .

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  69. Benji Greenlee thanks man! keep objectively thinking, no bias, no fear or hesitation to change opinion in accordance with new facts

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  70. Or because a hate "group" is just that — it's the collective thought of a group of individuals united through a cause. He wasn't just referring to the Cop Block admins and the admins alone — maybe you guys need to educate yourselves a bit more.

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  71. Cassius I'm not "trolling" either, Im serious when I say this article is a poorly written piece of crap that looks like somethin on an angry teenagers blog

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  72. Tanner Reed liking and commenting on a facebook page does not make you part of an organization or group anymore than private citizens liking or joining a Police force's page or facebook group would make such private citizen a police officer. Perhaps you should educate yourself more.

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  73. While I don't agree with everything cop block and anti-media espouse, I do agree and support every effort to rein in the police and make them accountable for killing unarmed citizens. As for the claim that supporters of the "Police accountability movement" are in lock step with right wing anti-government movements, I draw this important distinction. The groups I personally chose to support do not advocate armed insurrection, they are not anti-tax and libertarian. They, we, I don't hate the police, we hate to see them get away with murder.

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  74. Cassius Methyl You need to find a goddam ghost writer. Your writing needs serious help.

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  75. Cassius Methyl Ot's poorly written with lottle substantial proof to back any of your (redundant ad nuseam) points. I am all for accountability but this article could have been written better by some of my 5th graders

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  76. Better not talk bad about his writing, Jack. You'll get your comment removed.

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  77. You need to learn how to use punctuation for Christ's sake. I suppose we shouldn't expect anything intelligent from some wanna' be hipster who flunked out of community college and works at a pretzel chain

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  78. Actually jack foster you fat fuck I already graduated from 'community college' lol you dumbass I graduated for massage therapy n taken e.m.t courses so fuck yourself and don't speak if you don't know who the fuck your talking about DIG IT good

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  79. And I don't work there I don't update my info on Facebook seeing as I don't put everything out there for people to know my info dumbass

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  80. Actually jack foster you fat fuck I graduated from ' community college' lol you dumbass I graduated in massage an took e.m.t courses so fuck yourself an don't speak when you don't know who what your talking about DIG it k good

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  81. And I don't work there I just don't update my info all the time on Facebook for everyone an to put all my business out there dumb ass haha

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  82. Kaycee Jackson Soooo… Even more reason to take your idiotic, long winded rambling with a grain of salt. You bring nothing substantive to a very credible issue which certainly deserves serious discussion. Your (obviously) rage filled rants actually detract from the serious discussion that needs to be had on this very serious issue. Again, I'm all for accountability, but bear in mind, that also includes shit mouth wanna' be hipsters and gangsters. Even if you had something substantial to say, no one would read it because it is written so painfully ineptly…just sayin'… It (your writing and arguments) make me wonder if your massages come with an optional happy ending.

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  83. With a happy ending LOL ya ok that's only by the peopl who didn't go to college sweetheart and wanna hipster your a joke I just type like an old man sorry and it's a fact all these crooked police need to be held accountable should they be shot no should they stop getting off for there crimes yes hell yes they think because they have a badge they can do or treat people how they want well it's not ok nor is it to try an make it a police state an act the way they do you have no clue how crooked they really are buddy so fall back and hop off my shit

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  84. this is by far the best article you guys have ever written… and everything you said is the main reason I and so many others are a part of anti-media.

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  85. Are you mad? Cops anwser to CCRB who ruin their carrers on false aligations, with no reprocussions to the false statement made by civilians, they anwser to city hall, DOJ and countless other external audits. Why do you open your mouth when you have no clue what youre talking about?

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  86. Are you mad? Cops anwser to CCRB who ruin their carrers on false aligations, with no reprocussions to the false statement made by civilians, they anwser to city hall, DOJ and countless other external audits. Why do you open your mouth when you have no clue what youre talking about?

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  87. Wow, classy. So after copblock admitted in their own post that they are propaganda, are posting calls for murder of cops, and write posts degrading any positive things cops do, they are educational? You need to reevaluate your intelligence.

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  88. Maister English every single thing they post has happened you moron they Just post the shit cops try not to let people see im not saying there arent few decent officer out there but there are veryyy few the rest think they can do as they please an its disgusting because most of them ignorant ones get away with so much shit

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  89. And you two immature fucks shouldnt degrade the people on here for their own opinions obviously if these people who are against the cops are saying facts an it makes you mad because its all TRUE an you are ignorant

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  90. I do not trust the police but I do not hate them. The bottom line is mistakes happen and to ere is human. But still nobody should be beyond reproach for their fuck ups. The ratio of the number of questionable incidences involving police compared to those questionable incidences where the officer was found to be a perfect infallible super cop by his boss is out of sync with actual rates that human error occurs statistically so unless many of you presumed Christians believe both God and the police are infaliable (blasphemy) then clearly it is irrefutable that there is a disconnect when it comes to holding police accountable.

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