Someone was Indicted in the Eric Garner Killing…The Guy that Video Taped it

December 4, 2014   |   Pig Mine



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December 4, 2014

(TheAntiMedia) Ramsey Orta, the man who filmed the fatal incident on July 17, 2014 between NYPD Officer Daniel Pantaleo, and Eric Garner, his friend and the now deceased man accused selling un-taxed cigarettes on a NYC street, went in front of a Grand Jury September 1, 2014. He was indicted on what he says were trumped up charges as retaliation for filming the incident for which Officer Pantaleo was not indicted.

According to the Huffington Post:

“Police alleged that Orta had slipped a .25 caliber handgun into a teenage accomplice’s waistband outside a New York hotel. Orta testified that the charges were falsely mounted by police in retaliation for his role in documenting Garner’s death, but the grand jury rejected his contention, charging him with single felony counts of third-degree criminal weapon possession and criminal firearm possession.”

Raw Story reported Orta stating in an interview with the Advance that he was also threatened at that time:

“When they searched me, they didn’t find nothing on me…and the same cop that searched me, he told me clearly himself, that karma’s a b*tch, what goes around comes around,” Orta said, adding later, “I had nothing to do with this. I would be stupid to walk around with a gun after me being in the spotlight.”



Orta talked about the incident that day between Garner and police in an interview with Time.com, and stated that Garner had actually had been breaking up a fight, and as the two guys fighting walked across the street, the NYPD showed up and kept their attention on Garner, who they accused of selling un-taxed cigarettes.

Orta recounted the situation then escalated from there, where Pantaleo took Garner down with the fateful chokehold. Orta says he then watched Garner’s eyes roll back in his head and his mouth foam after he kept saying he couldn’t breathe, and he “knew he was gone”.

In an interview with Orta by the New York Daily News, Orta talked about his Grand Jury proceeding:

“I feel like it wasn’t fair at all,” he said. “It wasn’t fair from the start.”

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“When I went to the grand jury to speak on my behalf, nobody in the grand jury was even paying attention to what I had to say,” Orta said. “People were on their phones, people were talking. I feel like they didn’t give (Garner) a fair grand jury.”

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“The whole thing was just about Eric — why was he selling cigarettes, did you know he was selling cigarettes? It was bulls–t,” he said.

The Department of Justice states they are opening a civil rights investigation into Garner’s case, Obama has proposed $263M for police body cameras and NYC Mayor De Blasio calls for NYPD to use them as a solution to excessive force, but those accountability bandaids don’t address the root problem of escalating police brutality across the nation or make it all better.



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  1. What's the point of spending millions on body cams if the cops can get caught on camera murdering a person in cold blood and not even go to trial?

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  2. To give us a false sense of security. That's all.

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  3. Tyranny will be over soon.

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  4. I like how that sounds. I'm ready to do my part. ..

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  5. You took the words right out of my mouth!

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  6. How about spending ALL THE money on an IMPARTIAL investigations review board that handle the cases start to finish! Maybe then a few of these ruthless fkn maniac thug cops will FINALLY have some criminal charges slapped against their asses!

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  7. There are reports that he has a lengthy criminal background including multiple felong convictions. Didnt see anything about that in your article….hmmm wonder why?

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  8. That has nothing to do with what happened NOW! the past does not predict the future.

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  9. Orta had a previous weapon conviction that prohibited him from possessing a firearm.

    He is due in court this month on robbery charges stemming from a May arrest and an assault charge from an arrest three days before Garner’s death, according to court records. Hows three days before the incident….sounds like he had turned his life around…

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  10. Lizette Mullen that's because everyone in the damn world has been saying that exact statement for a long time now,

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  11. I hope someone gives this kid a real camera. Maybe he can make something of his life. I know I wouldn't want to live where he does.

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  12. Because there's no such thing as impartial. Their job will always be to return a not-guilty verdict so long as they get a check from the gov't.

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  13. I don't care if Eric Garner had a felony or got in trouble in the past.. That has nothing to do with the situation at hand and does not excuse or justify what the cops did.

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  14. Great point jeanne

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  15. SouthOf Heaven Fuck South of Heaven!

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  16. Neither you or the article propose a solution. I would rather try something, rather than nothing. Criticism doesn't help.

    In California, they reduced citizen complaints by over 80%…

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  17. You must be a cop or a close relative. There is absolutely no excuse for singling him out and retaliation. As a matter of fact, cops retaliating is nothing new, and should be grounds for removal from the force. It is certainly conduct unfitting an officer of the law.

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  18. Execute killer cops!

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  19. Freedome, obviously trying something beats nothing at all and I'm sure body cameras will help, what the are saying is that its tragic that even if it is caught on camera they are still allowing cops to get away with murder…they need to re-train law enforcement on how to handle these situations with sensitivity instead of brute force, and stop sending the message that you can kill without even having a trial to see if you need to be held accountable.

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  20. The solution is to stop putting cops on a pedestal and treat them like the criminals they are. Charge them, try them, convict them, put them in general population, and pop a cork when they leave feet first.

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  21. The body cams r just a distraction if it ever did get implemented (thats a big if) it would take yrs to happen and by then we will have forgotten aboit the incident all together and we would be on to yhe next distraction by the media..

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  22. How about spending all that money in the best way for us all….by us spending it ourselves as individuals. Money that is the fruits of our own labour. The State is out of control and needs chopping right down. Grafting me bollocks off day in day out to have the end product stolen upon threat of violence. Thieving twats

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  23. It doesn't make it OK for what happen by all means. Isn't that we teach our kids there are consequences for our actions. What makes a cop more inferior than anyone else? They commit a crime they too should be punished.

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  24. Well that might lead to justice lizette.. Crazy radical justice

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  25. Since when did the police uniform has turn in to football jersey

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  26. Well, it's not a total waste of money. I'm sure they will come in handy for incriminating citizens. :(

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  27. THEY HAVE THERE POLLS THEY WILL FIND THERE WAY AROUND THAT , SUCH IDIOTS,DONT U UNDERSTAND THEY THINK THERE GOD WITH THAT BADGE , I THINK THEY SHUD HAVE SAME PUNISHMENT WE GET WHEN WE DO WRONG , THERE NO BETTER THEN US , N THE JUDGES ARE A PIECE OF SHIT JUST THE SAME , CAUSE ALL THEY ARE DOING IS GIVING THEM THE GREEN LIGHT .NOO ITS TIME FOR THE ABUSE TO STOP, FUCK THE POLICE

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  28. That boy needs to sue them str8 up , they cant arrest him for that, why cause hes putting them out what they really are ! NO GOOD

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  29. how about we just fire all cops and do away with the police because they are pointless.

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  30. So you're saying just a person has a felony his life should not be valued. Thats absolutely rediculous we are all of one race and that's the human race.

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  31. Since the police are fourth and one and kill people to make their legal touchdown.what is there to scared of if you are doing right as an officer then you have no worries. The camera will show that. Besides what's the point with all the cell phones out there that have caught officers doing wrong they still get off of their crimes spree Scott free. It's an absolute shame when the police have become the worse serial killers in history.

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  32. I cant watch this without tearing up. it breaks my heart and ticks me off at the same time that they got away with it. I am so disgusted with police officers and their brutality. sad if nothing changes. sad for my kids this can happen to anyone and no justice

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  33. those cops and that grand jury can go fuck themselves. Better fucking hope I'm not present one day with shit like this. I will kill another man in self defense of another.

    Don't give a fuck if he has a badge or not.

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  34. I guess it comes down to credibility. All we know is what was put on tape. People are actors. From the start of that clip it looked like the guy knew he was being taped and just went off on the cops about harassment. we didn't see the fight that he allegedly broke up. We just heard him ranting about what he did and the guy who filmed it just going along with it. Its easy to paint a picture without facts. It was plain to see that this guy wasn't going peacefully. His gestures and posture indicated that. He was gonna make a scene and unfortunately it went down in a bad way for him. I saw the tape I saw the guy saying he cant breath over and over. I used to wrestle in high school and jr high and I myself have have a half nelson on me that made me feel like i couldn't breath. I've even told the ref that i couldn't breath and his reply was if you can talk, you can breath. Its true, I could breath just not enough to put up a fight. or to continue fighting out of the hold. My point is the guy who taped the clip was a thug and we all know what michael brown's friend/accomplice , who said one thing and testified to another. so credibility is something that you need to be believed. Im not saying it was right for the guy to die for selling cigarettes. It wouldn't have went that way if he had just complied and went peacefully. I do think there needs to be some attention to protocol on how these officers subdue people. that choke wasn't necessary once they got him on the ground and I think the cop has to answer to that…

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  35. Stay out of Local police issues Obama you scumbag politician, they can buy their OWN police cameras, I dont want my Federal Dollars spent on that. Let local police and their local govts pay for cameras that still wont change much, these cops got caught on camera and they are getting away with it scot free

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  36. States need to pass laws like what Scott Walker and Wisconsin did. From now in in Wisconsin, if something like this happens police are not allowed to investigate themselves, their is an independent board not related to the police at all, that will review the incident.

    No more cops policing cops in that state, lets make it all 50!

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  37. Do NY Cops wear body cams? I don't know. And if they do, maybe showing the unedited version doesn't fit the narrative.

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  38. What in the blue f##@ does him having prior conviction have to do with the police abusing their cowardly power and choking an unarmed man to death. Idiots like you always deviate from the Real issue because you don't want to admit the f#&@ing truth.

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  39. Let's do the anarchy thing,that want to treat us like animal, well let's raise hell like animals!!!

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  40. Stay in school, kid. Pay special attention in English as its the subject you obviously need help in. And, don't call the police when your next degenerate boyfriend is beating the shit out of you.

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  41. Nothing will happen until we fix these crooked ass judges.

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  42. EACH OFFICER SHOULD HAVE TO GET PROFESSION INDEMNITY INSURANCE OR LOOSE THEIR JOB.
    THIS WILL MAKE THE OFFICER RESPONSIBLE FOR HIS ABUSE OF THE LAW INSTEAD OF TAX PAYERS!

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  43. UNTIL YOU TELL YOUR LAW MAKERS THIS**NOTHING WILL CHANGE********************
    POLICE CANNOT INVESTIGATE THEMSELVES!
    Develop permanent, independent boards to review incidents of police corruption and brutality—and then fund them well and support them publicly. Only this can change a culture that has existed since the beginnings of the modern police department!

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  44. THIS NEEDS TO BE DONE** A LAW THAT PROTECT CITIZENS BY CLEANING UP THE POLICE DEPARTMENT
    YOU MUST DEAL WITH INCIDENCES OF POLICE CORRUPTION AND BRUTALITY!

    1. Strengthen the selection process and psychological screening process for police recruits. Police departments are simply a microcosm of the greater society. If your screening standards encourage corrupt and forceful tendencies, you will end up with a larger concentration of these types of individuals;

    2. Provide ongoing, examples-based training and simulations. Not only telling but showing police officers how they are expected to behave and react is critical;

    3. Require community involvement from police officers so they know the districts and the individuals they are policing. This will encourage empathy and understanding;

    4. Enforce the laws against everyone, including police officers. When police officers do wrong, use those individuals as examples of what not to do – so that others know that this behavior will not be tolerated. And tell the police unions and detective endowment associations they need to keep their noses out of the justice system;

    5. Support the good guys. Honest cops who tell the truth and behave in exemplary fashion should be honored, promoted and held up as strong positive examples of what it means to be a cop;

    6. Last but not least, police cannot police themselves. Develop permanent, independent boards to review incidents of police corruption and brutality—and then fund them well and support them publicly. Only this can change a culture that has existed since the beginnings of the modern police department.

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  45. I am not taking ages here but I heard the individual taping this incident stopped the tape at least twice. If true I would have to question why he stopped taking? Was there something he didn't want people to see? Again just something I heard more than once.

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  46. Shut the hell up.

    The cops attacked him, it's clear, you are insane and obviously a cop or friendly with cops.

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  47. Registered nurses disagree with you. Of course I don't expect people who are cop ass lickers to be intelligent.

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  48. if no witness possible a judges alone with the cops keep it a secret. the mintue the camera is turn on these recording should. go directly into YouTube this way judges and the people of the country can judg it means

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  49. Steve Guptill your the top commenter in this thread? classic.. I guess you missed the beginning of the tape. It already looked like this guy was going to be arrested. He resisted with his words and demeanor. I'm not a cop or friends with cops. I do understand their job and that they also want to come home to their family. They react to the situations put in front of them. if this guy didn't act like he has balls when the camera is rolling and trying to be a hard guy, this would be different. People seem to grow balls when they think they have the upper hand, in this being the media. It wasn't even like his guy was in good health. He knew his own health situation yet he still resisted and HE put himself at risk acting the way he did. He knew damn well that the cops aren't going to just walk away because you make a scene and talk tough on a camera. I'm not insane, its called common sense. you should try it sometime before you let your own personal feeling or emotions sway your judgment . Id guess by your response you don't like cops and didn't like them before this incident.

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  50. Mandi Kay Sullivan what does a nurse not agree with? you call me an asslicker but you don't even provide any basis for you comment.. are you also a registered troll?

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  51. Randy Woleslagle I refuse to speak with, or even read the comment of anyone too intellectually challenge to use paragraph breaks.

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  52. Randy Woleslagle , The if you can talk you can breathe thing, Your coach was an asshole and so are you. Yes you can breathe slightly but not enough for your system to manage for long and it will lead to cardiac arrest. Since this man DIED I'll assume he couldn't breathe since his death was ruled as strangulation, which was ignored by other cop ass lickers.

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  53. Freedome Raw Mi Yeah, try hanging a few cops from the light poles as warnings to the other cops that misbehaviour will not be tolerated.

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  54. Steve Guptill lol before you judge peoples intellect based on grammar, you should make sure yours is spot on numbnuts.

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  55. Mandi Kay Sullivan his death was not ruled a strangulation. it was based on not only the choke hold, but also the compression on his chest in a prone position and his overall health. typically when people lack oxygen they pass out before they actually die. It doesn't take a genius to figure out this guys own health issues played into his own demise. Why ASSUME his death was because he wasn't able to breath? Isn't it a possible assumption that he died of cardiac arrest because he couldn't take the stress of being forcefully arrested? A situation HE was responsible for contributing to.

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  56. Randy Woleslagle How long did he lay there passed out after the cops abused him? Again you stated something that was total bullshit. If the cops hadn't assaulted him he would not be dead. I find it funny that you say he was responsible for it when they were harassing him because of a previous encounter. Again the cops had ZERO right to murder someone.

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  57. There are a couple of issues at question here in response to this thread of responses. First there is case law that allows officers to take into account previous encounters with an individual, hence the relevance of his criminal history to this encounter. Second the duration of the chokehold seems to have been due to cuffing difficulties, perhaps the use of two sets due to the man's size. Lastly, and perhaps most importantly, the choke hold was improperly applied. The choke hold has an unfortunate history in law enforcement and is often not trained because it's often not authorized. But it is a knee jerk reaction by many in a confrontation with a larger opponent. When applied properly it renders unconsciousness, improperly it can crush important parts of human beings and cause death. The officer should be held accountable for this horrible mistake, but to call it cold blooded murder is ignorant.

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  58. it is so they can have more cameras on us a be able to record what we are doing at all times just like they do to our laptops and phones, drones, street cameras at let alone satellites. They would just like to know whats going on everywhere for "our protection"

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  59. So let me see.. where in this article It has to with where he lives, don't worry about if he made something of his life in this case he's considered a "hero" for filming this brutal incident and testify for Garner. If anything criticize the cops for failing to do their duties as cops & to serve and protect instead of being assholes and killing.

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  60. Shennell Red This kid is going to be an important person some day. I'm not criticizing him. I admire him. Bitching about cops on a post isn't going to do anything, so I just post my hopes for him. Maybe some rich POS will see my post and give him a real camera. O_o

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  61. It's juries, not judges that decide such cases. We gotta fix the crooked ass cops always getting the benefit of the doubt

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  62. Steve Guptill They call em "Trolls" —> people who marginalize a topic to discredit its importance For(many reasons)

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  63. Mauricio Marulanda seems to be a lot of that false security these days … like the security theater at the airports…. because when there's trouble on an airplane anymore, the passengers take care of business. Nothing to see here citizen, please go back to watching reruns of your favorite tv shows, american idol and football.

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  64. Fuck da crooked ass cops. Fuck da crooked ass judges. N most of all FUCK DA CROOKED ASS JURIES. My older brother is Anthony Baez who also was choked by a man who swore to protect n sever. I been dealing wit police brutality since I was 9 n I'm now 29. My brother was a gud man very loving n a man who wud take his shirt off for anybody didn't matter who u was. If u needed it. It was urs. Nttn has changed. My brother was a Christian who's favorite singer was amy grant a gospel singer. Wat has dis world Kum too. NO JUSTICE NO PEACE!!

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  65. The real question here is, why hasn't anyone addressed the root problem of the escalating disrespect for law enforcerment across the nation? Or are you all just blindly following the Mantra of the Obama/Sharpton race baiting administration deviding this country racially? One commenter said racism is just as bad in 2014 as it was in 1964 and 1954 and 1944… Yes she is right! All this race baiting since Obama got elected is causing all this and why? To destroy this nation and make it ripe for a U.N. takeover to accomplish the New World Order Agenda!

    Wake Up People!

    White Cop brings down a disrespectful law breaking (31 times in fact) African American who resists arrest and the whole Black "Community" losses their minds? That's racism plain and simple. Hatred towards whitey, especially white cops. Don't ever disrespect a cop. Fight the law and the law will win! It's their job. R.E.S.P.E.C.T. Find out what it means, and no one will have any troubles.

    And the choke hold? That was used to put Garner on the ground. The Officer only had used a choke hold for a few seconds and had already released the hold after getting him on the ground before garner said he couldn't breath. And he was alive, still breathing and heart pumping when they took him away! Watch and study the second video from inside the store.

    As a news photographer I've seen much worse being done to people, White People, for resisting arrest and I have photos to prove it. In fact it was a whole page spread on it back in 89 in Connecticut when people were protesting an abortion clinic by entering the private offices and sitting on the floors resisting police to block people from getting in.

    Where was the outrage then? Where were all the riots? Nowhere because it wasn't about "African Americans" and their ongoing hatred about things that happened 150 years ago! Do you see the Chinese complaining? They were slaves as well. No they are taking advantage of the opportunity America has to offer!

    It's time for "African Americans" to let the past go and just be Americans like everyone else and tell the Sharpton's, Jackson's, and Farrakhan's where to stick their racist speeches! This is America, the Land of the Free, the land of opportunity. Figure out how to be a civilized and become a contributing member of society and prosper from it, and always respect the law!
    Exactly what Martin Luther King Jr. tried to teach, as well as Jesus Christ!

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  66. That is what the Grand Jury is. An impartial investigative review board

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  67. Steve Guptill , If it weren't for all you cop haters they wouldn't have to be on the offensive.

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  68. That case wasn't murder…it was all due to a fat guy being fat. Go watch the video of the guy saying "he can't breathe" and then the cop lets him get up and he hits the cop…. idiots

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  69. Randy Woleslagle i can see u never had a cop get smart to u cuz if u know u have done nothing wrong u r going to have a attude if someone tryed to tell u that u did something that u didnt do u need to get out the house and see what the world is

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  70. Most of y'all are idiots!!! Start and sign a list in your local jurisdiction, state, and Federally saying I do not trust police, so l never want their help in fear they may have to use physical force to protect me or my family

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  71. John Skrzec is that English?

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