Ten Facts You Should Know About The Police State

December 8, 2014   |   Justin King

Justin King
December 8, 2014

(TheAntiMedia) Here are ten frightening facts about the police state that you need to know about:

  1. More than 500 American citizens have died after being tased, a device considered “non-lethal.”
  2. The yearly cost of the War on Drugs to the American taxpayer is about $40 billion. The estimated cost to end hunger worldwide is $30 billion yearly.
  3. There are more than 80,000 military raids conducted by police every year in the United States.
  4. There are roughly 2.3 million people locked up in the United States with another 5 million on probation or parole. The overwhelming majority are for non-violent crimes.
  5. UNICOR, an establishment inside the US Federal Prison System uses its confined pool of labor to produce war goods for the US military.
  6. In 36% of US SWAT raids, no contraband of any kind is found after the officers risk everyone’s life and engage in reckless actions that cost lives.
  7. An average London resident is recorded over 300 times a day by Big Brother’s video surveillance apparatus.
  8. The only nation to maintain a higher incarceration rate than the United States is Germany… under the Nazis.
  9. 97% of reported police brutality victims are people of color.
  10. Every 98 minutes, a cop kills a family pet. There have been no recorded officer deaths from a dog in last decade.

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Author: Justin King

Justin King joined Anti-Media as an independent journalist in July of 2014. His topics of interest include activism, human rights, international relations, and military affairs. Born in Japan, he currently resides in the United States.

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  1. The boys in blue who are the violent cow boys. ..Have nothing better to do then kill you. ….Because you looked at them the wrong way..And those cry babies felt their life is been threaten…

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  2. You ALL who are buying into the crap being fed on this site are a disgrace. I am ashamed of each and every one of you. You dumb asses are soooo quick to "drink the Kool-Aid", you are nothing but a bunch of hopeless losers who have been force fed this BS by the Politically Correct since the 90's and have become nothing but perpetual "victims" who are constantly looking for SOMETHING to be offended by. For Gods sake, grow up, DON'T break the law (just because "you don't agree with it") get a job, teach your children manners, quit "sagging" your pants, you look like you have a "full diaper", don't loot. No one is trying to stifle your freedom to speak or protest "legitimate" causes, but do so in a respectful manner, your bug-eyed, loud mouth screaming simply turns off people who might agree and be in a position to help further your cause. Law and order are all that distinguish us from the illiterate.

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  3. You lie a lot too huh.

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  4. Stop eating paint chips in your spare time and actually pay attention to world events. You might not be such a sorry sap if you did because right now you are a disgrace to humanity.

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  5. Karlyn Koggi Hickey Sullivan: You're a moron. Do you think the Jews in Nazi Germany had the same attitude? "Don't break the law, and you have nothing to worry about!" The article even states we have the highest incarceration since "Nazi Germany." People like you need to expire, so the people who really love this country and what it stands for can fight for it.

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  6. What gives you the right to tell someone how they can dress and what they can do with their lives. There are black people being harassed by pigs and I do mean it towards them, because they are walking down the road with their hands in their pockets not bugging anyone else. Get over yourself and go back to watching your faux news channel, who have sued to be able to be called entertainment and be able to lie to people about what is actually going on in the world.

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  7. People are asking why the the surveillance camera stats are from London. It's because we don't have any accurate stats in the US.

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  8. My family serves in the US Military, the other wing of oppression. I tell them "My FREEdumb is not at risk in Iraq, it is at risk on Main St. USA! Get back here and defend me!"

    Nothing about the Police is good any more. I would rather have an arsenal of my own and know my neighbor does too. We do not NEED any cops, we NEED detectives to solve the 90% UNSOLVED Crimes!!!!

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  9. Hey, Karlyn, this I a list of facts. Arguing it with your biased and ignorant opinion without anything to back it up makes you look pretty fucking stupid.

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  10. Hey Karlyn, your ignorant racism is showing. In conclusion to your pointless rant all I could see you saying, or assuming, was that anyone that doesnt follow along with the political narrative that you have been force fed is a black criminal that wears saggy pants, doesnt take care of their kids and doesnt have manners. You are assuming a lot ma'am. But from your comments and the fact you are from Kansas I can safely assume you are a white entitled Christian that thinks the world is yours and noone else deserves an opinion or second thought. If anyone needs to learn respect or manners it would be yourself.

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  11. Actually, the ability to read is what distinguishes us from the illiterate. Rather than just spouting off stuff directed at black people (the article was written by a devilishly handsome white guy, by the way), try reading the linked statistics. Your definition of what is "legitimate" is not relevant. The Freedom of Speech was designed to protect controversial speech. If everybody agrees with something, it wouldn't really need protection would it?
    As far as the "don't break the law" and then you won't have anything to worry about, I'm fairly certainly Eric Garner was committing a misdemeanor. Driving too fast is a misdemeanor in most states. By your logic, the next time you're speeding a cop should kill you.

    You are more likely to be killed by a cop than a terrorist. In some states, cops kill more people than gang members or drug dealers. A pizza delivery driver has a more dangerous job than a cop.

    A person who won't read is no better off than someone who can't read.

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  12. My dad retired after 30 years in the military and my mom after 20 years in law enforcement. They are both on the side of the people putting up the good fight against the police state and out of control law enforcement! My moms tells me about all kinds of corruption she saw in her years of law enforcement. It has been going on for A LONG TIME!

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  13. Most of the people protesting have a legitimate reason. The looting comes from people that take advantage not necessarily directly related to the idea behind the protest. People sag their pants and you shouldn't give a fuck. You are offended by this? How about you get offended at the fact that people who simply stand their ground against unlawful arrests end up executed at the hands of meathead cops that have no respect for human life. You are coming up with some stupid "politically correct" way of protesting because screaming offends you? Your argument is extremely contradicting and clearly shows your lack of common sense..

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  14. I'm enjoying seeing karlyn get crushed by these replies! Nice! I truly felt it a waste of my time but you guys killed it!

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  15. Karlyn, you are delusional. People like you are everything that is wrong with the world. When you spread tour nonsensical statements around and believe hat you are correct no matter how wrong you are proven. So if the law said only men could vote, would you break the law and protest? Or would you be the one bowing her head down to the oppressive society? Why can't you put yourself in other people's shoes? It really isn't hat difficult, even children have more compassion than you.

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  16. congratz, you get the award for dumbest person alive.

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  17. You are so very young, write out your thoughts and opinions, put them in a box and come back in 20 years and take a look. When you reach my age, things look so very different, but keep speaking your mind, it's your right~~just as my opinion is my right~~~~.and just a side note–I have NEVER bowed down to oppression and my 9 grandchildren and 3 great G'children think I have all the compassion in the world. I'm sorry if I came across as crass and unfeeling in my original post, I am old, and so tired of all the negativity that seems to surround us

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  18. Karlyn Koggi Hickey Sullivan It looks like they have a case of cognitive dissonance…..they don't want to believe there is a very big problem with this country…..they just want to say "dont break laws and you wont have any problems" lol yeah tell that to eric garner….fucking idiots….don't lose sleep over these imbicle's

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  19. How many names do you want next time?

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  20. I give up, I have been properly "put in my place", should never spouted off to begin with, will not respond or read anymore ~~~~you can ALL be proud of yourselves for —what was the word—crushing an 80 year old who was just tired of all the conflict and "venting". Sorry if I offended all you enlightened youngsters, keep up the "good work"~~~~you are our future

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  21. Karlyn Koggi Hickey Sullivan Compassion isnt about how much you can love your family. Compassion is about how you can put yourself in someone else's place and understand what they are going through and/or where they came from to get where they are. We all walk different paths. Until you are able to be empathetic to ALL of your fellow human beings you are unable to call yourself compassionate.

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  22. Age is supposed to make me as ridiculous as you? I don't understand why you claims of people sagging their pants, and protesting in a non P.C. way are justified just because you are old.. you didn't answer my question. Would you be OK following the law and not voting if it were illegal for you to do so? Or would you do something to change it? Why do peaceful protestors get beat and gassed when it is their right? Do you pick and choose which rights are more valuable? You seem pretty self-righteous about your right to state your opinion. What about the rights of protestors?

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  23. Whenever somebody forms a "personal" opinion about people they don't know shows supreme ignorance. Don't tell me about a country unless it's greatness was built in fairness to every human being. Some people love hearing themselves talk. Come up with solutions that benefits all man kind not just your own personal opinion. We all see the writing on the wall. You know in your essence "what's wrong and what's right".

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  24. It's in our constitution lady if laws are unjust and do not make sense we have a moral obligation to force change. Why do you think we have a second amendment to hunt no it's to protect ourselves from domestic as well as foreign threats. Why don't you read up some more on things the founding fathers said and stop watching fox news and pretending that every person deserves what they get. Some cases yes individuals do deserve what they deserve but as for corrupt cops notice you can NEVER get one sued for serious crimes. They get paid vacations instead that's pathetic. Why have options that are non life threatening to subdue a suspect if you always result to lethal tactics. It is a shame America has come to cop's being such cowards they forgot how to a person.

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  25. Do you have the sources for this article? I posted this and someone asked me for them. All I found is it's author.

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  26. Taxes allow this system to operate. Without the government's monopoly on "justice," we'd have a market of competing systems that were voluntary, instead of based on coercion against innocent people.

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  27. There are links to the sources in every point in the article.

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  28. Jeff McClain Yup. It is the FOIA and the surge of technology that has brought it to our living rooms at 6 oclock daily.

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  29. Diego Diaz A simple " apology accepted " would do you fucking dick

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  30. Troy, don't feel bad. Lots of people asked for them. In stuff like this I think I'm going to start saying "the sources are linked in the red text."

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  31. The militarization of police started out during the Johnson/ Nixon years. And the LAPD, under the guidance of the late William Parker, was the first to militarize its police forces as well as made its first SWAT teams. Liittle did they know years later that SWAT teams were used for more than just special situations and the no-knock rules were implemented all in the name of the war on crime, drugs, and poverty.

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  32. Spent 10 years in the Marines, went to war for my country, you are every thing I fought against.

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  33. When the good cops come out and actually defend the rule of law we'll praise them. Problem is very few will

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  34. Karlyn Koggi Hickey Sullivan You look nuttier than a squirrel turd. You look like a complete fool, no one is proving your point because it's invalid.

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  35. No. They cannot. Why should we? Do you praise a bus driver for driving a bus safely? Do you praise a mail carrier for delivering the mail? Sure, you may say "thank you" but everyone is just doing their jobs. Why should we praise cops for not behaving like pigs? If you praise a cop for upholding the constitution, you are in essence implying that a cop doing the right thing is unique, above and beyond, and worthy of celebration. It should not be. It should be regarded as normal- expected behavior. I'm not going to praise a cop for doing their job correctly, but knock yourself out.

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  36. Jeff McClain I hope you guys are staying safe…dangerous as hell standing up to these bastards. One cop means shit, but they all got a lot of friends lol.

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  37. It is not hard to prove that modern police tactics have problems with society due to bad martial arts training. They get the best in "martial studies" but are never passed on any "art", no actual self discipline or self motivations to solve problems, as in most arts; where it can be applied to daily life. Instead, its all "get huge and destroy every enemy". An easy fix, were the states smart enough to at least see something so simple.

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  38. You have inadvertantly described how the citizenry used to police itself, Christopher. The grand jury was part of that. If somebody witnessed a crime, he would go to the grand jury with evidence, et al. Even the policemen would do that.

    The grand jury is one of those checks on government that has been neutered. The modern grand jury is a "puppet" grand jury that is controlled by the government, when it is supposed to be completely independent of government meddling. A non-government employee citizen can convene a grand jury, but that fact is not known. This is the mechanism by which citizens policed the lands wherein they lived.

    In the Supreme Court case of United States v. Williams, 112 S.Ct. 1735, 504 U.S. 36, 118 L.Ed.2d 352 (1992), Justice Antonin Scalia, writing for the majority, confirmed that the American grand jury is neither part of the judicial, executive nor legislative branches of government, but instead belongs to the people. It is in effect a fourth branch of government "governed" and administered to directly by and on behalf of the American people, and its authority emanates from the Bill of Rights.

    Thus, citizens have the unbridled right to empanel their own grand juries and present "True Bills" of indictment to a court, which is then required to commence a criminal proceeding. Our Founding Fathers presciently thereby created a "buffer" the people may rely upon for justice, when public officials, including judges, criminally violate the law.

    In the Supreme Court case of United States v. Mara (1976), Justice Douglas in dissent was characteristically blunt: "It is, indeed, common knowledge that the grand jury, having been conceived as a bulwark between the citizen and the Government, is now a tool of the Executive."

    United States v. Dionisio, 410 U.S. 1, 17-18 (1973) ("[I]f [the grandjury] is even to
    approach the proper performance of its constitutional mission [to screen cases], it must be free to pursue its investigations unhindered by external influence or supervision.").

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  39. Karlyn Koggi Hickey Sullivan I had some family who were executed by the Nazi's (I'm part Polish) in Poland. I don't think you have any fucking idea what you're talking about. People complying with tyranny is not an answer, it never was. Not for overseas & especially not in America, you dipshit.

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  40. It's not taxes. They just steal our money from us, there's little one can do to stop that without either 1, not doing it & then they find out & you go to prison or 2, we revolt & overthrow the unjustness we're talking about. This of course is just a piece of the pie, there's more to overthrow than this.

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  41. Well, people should boycott taxes, is the point. But most people dutifully hide behind the flawed idea that they are paying "their fair share." What they are doing is supporting violence against innocents.

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  42. Sometimes the Mafia does good things, too. Are you saying that we need the Mafia, and other criminal gangs to keep the peace and promote prosperity?

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  43. R. Douglas Barbieri We're not paying anything, they're stealing from us who have property & or who work also.

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  44. Agreed, 100%. However, people can revolt and stop sending in their returns and lean on their employers to stop withholding. But they errantly believe they are "paying," and won't look at it like it really is: legalized extortion.

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  45. R. Douglas Barbieri Then those people will be fired. Employers are the boss today, not us. If you start doing that, they will just fire you & find people who will not do that. They don't have time for that, they're not going to risk anything for us. And the not sending in returns would be fine but that doesn't matter because the state already stole thousands from each person. All the return does is confirm that & maybe, maybe, it'll get more money stolen from you if they say you didn't give them enough. All BS of course. Unless we kill those people who are stealing from us, destroying our country & disobeying the rule of law & getting away with it, nothing changes. I speak like that because that's what our colonists did when they got sick of their corrupt govt. They didn't keep on waiting for more tyranny, they each took action & groups eventually formed from that & the militia's did their jobs.

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  46. Kill?! There is no need for violence. All we have to do is start getting people to confront the reality that taxation is just a euphemism for legalized extortion and robbery. Employers are people too, you know. A critical mass of businesses who say, "no!" to the Federal Gov't will end the income tax. People switching to other forms of currency such as bitcoin will help as well.

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  47. Taxation isn't the problem, the problem is who's getting taxed. If they taxed the richest corporations at a 90% like we did up to the 60s when it was changed by jfk, we would be experiencing and incredible booming economy. We could have free schooling all the way to phd, a much better public transportation infrastructure, better pay, and cheap housing. Another one of the big problems is fascism. These corporations make the laws, literary (look up A.L.E.C.), and make sure corporate welfare is the law of the land. They also make sure banks get bailed out and that our defence budget is so extremely large, so that we can keep spending money on bullets and oil to fuel the war machine.

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  48. Diego Diaz Taxation is Theft. Period. Taxing the "richest corporations" will just result in the taxes being passed down to their customers as the cost of doing business. You want freebies? That's sick. People should pay for what they use, not be forced to subsidize the lifestyles of others. And, in a freed market, everything would be far more affordable.

    Because we have taxes, the government steals from the productive and rewards corporate welfare recipients like the "Defense" Industry. The taxpayer is on the hook for the biil, over the barrel of a gun.

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  49. R. Douglas Barbieri The problem is far deeper than unjust taxes. Fighting back is a necessity now, has been for awhile. Violence is justified when the state is using violence against us daily & gets away with it. That monopoly over their unjust violence must be answered by us who value liberty. You cannot condone unjust "taxes" or anything else the state has done to us for too long & then say we can fix it by being nice. We can't. I guess you think our colonial patriots were wrong then too.

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  50. R. Douglas Barbieri You admit to violence being a tool by the state to force from us what is not their's to take but you disagree with using justified violence in defense of stopping said state that is the cause of that happening to begin with. That makes no sense.

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  51. I'm not a libertarian, I'm a socialist. I believe in a government of, for, and by the people. (Can't have that unless we have a complete financial reform in elections) The idea of government isn't flawed, everyone working together to pay for roads, schooling, and Healthcare is what they do in some Scandinavian countries. These nations have a much better standard of living, and their rich say and I quote "I wouldn't want to be rich in a poor nation". The mentality of the fascist extremist that have taken over control of government, federal and specially local, are ruthless and could give a fuck about you and me. If capitalism isn't regulated then you create what we have in America today. Without taxes you wouldn't be able to have working bridges, a good education system, fire fighters or even law enforcement.

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  52. Matt Wayne Yes. Because you won't win if you try to fight the state on their terms. However, when people wake up and stop believing the state is their representative and realize that it does not work for them, but against them, then we will see a shift.

    What if no one will show up to take the job of the cop or the soldier, because those jobs have such a low reputation, and the members of the force and military are met with derision, instead of flag waving? Who will take the job of the cop or soldier if there is no money to pay them? By boycotting the system, we starve the beast. All non-violently. And then work through the Agora to replace the services that the gov't does provide (as a monopoly, of course) with free-market based services.

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  53. Also corporate welfare is a result of fascism not taxation. If we, as the peoplw, actually controlled were the money was spent, we would never give it to the war on drugs, and the oil thrusty defence contractors. This is a misuse of taxation, it doesn't mean the idea is flawed.

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  54. Diego Diaz " I believe in a government of, for, and by the people." That is a belief only, and complete myth, and betrays your Utopic views. Government does not work for the people–the people work for the government.

    "The idea of government isn't flawed, everyone working together to pay for roads, schooling, and Healthcare is what they do in some Scandinavian countries."

    Yet those countries are in massive debt, just like every other socialist country that tries to ignore the laws of economics and provide freebies for everyone. It's a pipe dream, and it's high time you wake up.

    " The mentality of the fascist extremist that have taken over control of government, federal and specially local, are ruthless and could give a fuck about you and me."

    No, that has ALWAYS been what government is. It was NEVER about you and me. It's about them.

    "If capitalism isn't regulated then you create what we have in America today. Without taxes you wouldn't be able to have working bridges, a good education system, fire fighters or even law enforcement."

    Without capitalism, you have nothing. It is the regulation of the market that has caused all of these problems. Bridges will be built because they are necessary, not because some politician made a noble decree. Fire fighters will be in business because there is a need to put out fires and protect property. Violent police and political connections are not required for this. And law enforcement, we definitely don't need. We need peace keeping, security, and the services and investigation and arbitration, all services that should be provided voluntarily, not at the point of the state's guns.

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  55. R. Douglas Barbieri Your hopes are admirable but not plausible except for minor things in some local areas that people still have a hold over their govt. Honor alone will not win us our country back. I'm a fighter, I'm not a sole discusser of things. I am a warrior, I don't have interest in apathetic measures. I speak the truth that is hard for many to soak in, so that people know they have choices, other than what the state wants us to have. Besides, is it not the state that benefits from your non-violent methods? Yes, it only benefits it, there is none for us, that has been proven. Look up the Battle of Athens, TN, 1946. It happened & it's testament to people fighting for liberty when things are corrupt. That's our duty & right.

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  56. Wait so how would you pay for these services if we are boycotting money? You say they will follow a free market, but if you take regulations away, you honestly believe that these for profit businesses would behave in a sane manner? Look at what happens when we deregulated banks, it has caused so many problems because they do what ever they can to maximize profits. Capitalism is a psychopathic mentality and the pure capitalist must be ruthless if they truly want to maximize productivity. Libertarianism wouldn't work because everyone is left on their own and there isn't any sense of community. The "free market" needs to be regulated by us, the people. The idea of government was a noble one until it was corrupted with politics and money. You shouldn't be so quick to dismiss the idea just because it hasn't been done before, like no taxes hasn't been done before in America. I don't dismiss the idea of no taxes, but for that to work we need to get rid of money period. We can have a full free energy society which could result in a society in which everything is free. The idea that we need money is a myth, and the fascist use it as a method of control nothing else. The idea that you need capitalism is also flawed and a piece of propaganda from the same coporate assholes you claim to be agaisnt. Why should everything be for profit? Why should there be a ceo that benefits from incarceration, think about it. The situation we have right now with the prison industry. They make money from having full cells, who would pay for this in a free market no government society? Doesn't the fact that having full prisons creates profit corrupt the entire system? If not regulated by government, they would make sure, with everything they have in their power, to fill up these prisons. This creates things like the failed war on drugs, that at the end of the day it's working quite well for the prison industry. If people didn't profit from it, the war on drugs would have never taken place. This is one example, you could analyse the energy industry as well as healthcare and come to the conclusion that these should be services that everyone has a right to in our society.

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  57. Also one last thing about government. We shouldn't think of government as a separate entity that lives and breathes. It should be you and me. SHOULD. Of course it isn't the case, but it isn't an impossible idea if we can reform corruption out by getting rid of money. And one more question, who would pay these private corporations to build those bridges you claim to be nesesary? Will they just do it cause it needs to be done? Or would local people have to pitch in to get the project going, aka taxation?

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  58. Matt Wayne — Thanks. For several years, I have been posting information that may be valuable to the people that want to put the government back into its proper place. Another thing about the constitutional grand jury. I think it can remove elected officials from office. If interested click on the interpretation of Magna Carta link, here http://www.1215.org/lawnotes/lawnotes/foundation.htm

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  59. Matt Wayne "I'm a fighter, I'm not a sole discusser of things. I am a warrior, I don't have interest in apathetic measures."

    You can't do anything when you're dead. Besides, violent revolutions never yield free societies.

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  60. R. Douglas, you use history to disclaim revolutions but refuse to consult it when it comes to deregulation. Financial crisis have always been preceded by capitalists trying to get a bigger piece of the pie or close to the whole thing. The Cuban revolution would have worked if America didn't block their economy, the Russian went from socialist values from Lenin, to a violent egomaniac dictator (stalin) who divided from the revolution's original ideas. They could work in america, were capitals oppression will get worst than it was in those countries I just mentioned.

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  61. Diego Diaz "Wait so how would you pay for these services if we are boycotting money?"

    I never said I was boycotting money (notice I advocated for bitcoin)–I am for boycotting the Federal Reserve system of funny money. Money should not be regulated and provided by government–then it becomes a political tool that ultimately gets taken over by the government-blessed, cartelized banking interests.

    "You say they will follow a free market, but if you take regulations away, you honestly believe that these for profit businesses would behave in a sane manner?"

    Yes, of course. That is because they will have true competition, where bad behavior is actually punished in a free market as opposed to being rewarded by the political class. Regulations were never for helping stabilized the market, nor were they ever for protecting the little guy from the big guy. They have always and will always be about protecting big interests from small competitors (in other words, corporate welfare). It's not that I think suddenly angels will be running the businesses in the market–it's that there will be actual fear of loss of capital in a freed market. The big players don't fear losses because they know they can lobby for yet more special favors and get bailed out and supported by the taxpayer over the barrel of a gun.

    "Look at what happens when we deregulated banks, it has caused so many problems because they do what ever they can to maximize profits."

    The banks were never deregulated. The banks were put into their positions of power due to regulation, not despite it. Case in point, the Federal Reserve Act of 1913. It is regulation over the barrel of the state's gun that have made the mess that we see today.

    "The "free market" needs to be regulated by us, the people."

    Exactly. So why do you confuse the political class with the rest of us? The government does not and never will represent "the people." Regulation can only come from voluntary associations, not from political edicts and violence. Case in point: UL.

    "The idea of government was a noble one until it was corrupted with politics and money."

    HAH! Government HAS ALWAYS been about politics and money. The "noble idea" you are clinging to is nothing more than propaganda.

    "You shouldn't be so quick to dismiss the idea just because it hasn't been done before, like no taxes hasn't been done before in America. I don't dismiss the idea of no taxes, but for that to work we need to get rid of money period."

    No, there is nothing wrong with money per-se. We need to get rid of the idea that there needs to be a central bank and government needs to mint and regulate money. Money should come from the free market (like bitcoin, as I stated above).

    "The idea that you need capitalism is also flawed and a piece of propaganda from the same coporate assholes you claim to be agaisnt. Why should everything be for profit? "

    Corporations are created by government, since the government offers the corporate charter. Government protects assholes from liability for their actions. Government allows big companies to "get away" without paying taxes. The corporate charter allows businesses to pay their expenses *first*, then pay taxes, where you and I must pay taxes first, then our expenses, for example. The corporate charter is all about creating artificial "persons" which can own property (and now donate to campaigns). You can thank government for corporations.

    Capitalism is the ONLY thing that lifts people out of poverty. Period. You look around at the places with the worst poverty, and they have fuck all for a market. The places where life is the best are the places with a robust market that keeps ahead of the parasitic blood sucking of the politicians, taxmen and police.

    Everything is for profit. Whether you like it or not. If you don't make a profit, you go under–this is true for everyone. Resources cost–they always will, nothing can be for free. Only Utopians wish the laws of economics away.

    "The situation we have right now with the prison industry. They make money from having full cells, who would pay for this in a free market no government society?"

    You're making my point for me. Without taxation, there would be no prison industry, at least, as we know it today. There would likely be prisons, but they would be handled in a completely different way. Only the truly deserving would go there and pot smokers and prostitutes would be free to do what they wanted without tax-funded vice squads.

    " If not regulated by government, they would make sure, with everything they have in their power, to fill up these prisons."

    Government is the cause of full prisons. Think about it.

    "This creates things like the failed war on drugs, that at the end of the day it's working quite well for the prison industry."

    The government created and fights the war on drugs, turning the inner cities into war zones. Prohibition is due to tax-funded police enforcing political whims "for the greater good." We would have no war on drugs in a freed society.

    "If people didn't profit from it, the war on drugs would have never taken place."

    The only ones profiting are the drug gangs and the cops. Without prohibition, there would be profit, for sure, but you would also be free to donate your money into drug clinics that give the stuff away for free, but also provide physicians to help addicts ween themselves from the drugs if they are willing. Today, you don't dare have that for fear of being raided by tax-funded swat teams.

    "This is one example, you could analyse the energy industry as well as healthcare and come to the conclusion that these should be services that everyone has a right to in our society."

    Yes, and both industries are highly regulated and are replete with high prices and monopolies. You really think government is the answer, when it is the entity that caused all of this in the first place?

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  62. Diego Diaz "Also one last thing about government. We shouldn't think of government as a separate entity that lives and breathes. It should be you and me. SHOULD. Of course it isn't the case, but it isn't an impossible idea if we can reform corruption out by getting rid of money. And one more question, who would pay these private corporations to build those bridges you claim to be nesesary? Will they just do it cause it needs to be done? Or would local people have to pitch in to get the project going, aka taxation?"

    It is a separate entity. It is NOT US. It never has been, and never will be.

    Again, I am for money, just against fiat currency. Bridges would be built because they were needed, not because some politician wanted to score political points and some crony companies wanted to get rich.

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  63. Jeff Fahrenkamp That's good information for everyone to read up on if they truly want to be more informed.

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  64. Haha I like you man, we tend to agree on many things just not this one point. The idea of government isn't flawed. It is the capitalist corporations that influence it that make it what it is today. This is the big elephant in the room you keep ignoring. When you and I say gov. In now days we should really say corporations. ( really research A.L.E.C AMERICAN LEGISLATIVE EXCHANGE COUNSIL) These corporate pigs literally write lots of local law that ends up in deregulation of the market. This gives them an unfair advantage against the consumer and other smaller businesses. The advantage is that they are able to make more money even if it's at the risk of the buyer. No consumer protection yields a system that takes advantage of the misfortuned. I don't understand why you deny the fact that the deregulation of banks is what leads to recessions and depressions? It's a fact that economic bubbles, due to the lack of consumer protection, end up causing economic depression. Then the people have to bail out the banks and corporations that are "too big to fail" yes the government created these corporations but because the big business people wanted this and made it so through money and corruption of politicians. It is the politicians in the pocket of the corporations that do away with the regulations, not the "government". You speak of it as if it were alive and functioned on its own. Government is of, for, and by the corporations and is the reason why things look the way they do now. You are against the corruption like me, but you need to realize that the corporations have created a fascist government over the decades and now have total control. This is why they keep printing fiat money that doesn't exist. I believe we agreen on this. The market cannot regulate itself because it runs on profit. The competition is purely based on that. So now you have a race to the bottom of who can get more production for their buck. This is what creates the exploitation of labor markets. Without government there wouldnt be good pay because they would have a race to maximoze profits, in other words high wages and unregulated capitalism cannot coexist, this brings down the standaed of living. It creates exploitatiom of the most desperate comunities that would gladly work for pennies compared ti people in america. Unregulated capitalism does away with American sovereignty and sends jobs overseas. We have witnessed in the past that when we remove tariffs that punishsed corporations that take off with our jobs to a much more profitable market (cheap labor). The idea of monopoly is purely capitalistic and has nothing to do with "government" it has everything to do with the coporations that have taken over the government and use their power to push forth a more profitable agenda for their employers. Regulations can be for protecting people not all of them serve a right purpose, but again it doesn't mean it's black or white and that the idea of regulation is flawed. Regulations to protect consumers such as, no more lead paint are good. Regulations like cars should have a pollution cap, or that foods should have some nutritional value, and that banks shouldn't be able do what they do in Wallstreet and get away with it. You say that everything does need to be for profit. I disagree, we have unlimited energy that the corporations that control the government prevent us from using. I'm saying we could use wind, solar, and hydro. Truly unlimited resources provided by nature. We don't need to pay anyone for our energy, that is just a big scam to create a middle guy. The government in the hands of fascists is a powerful and destructive force, I agree. Capitalism without a leash is pretty dangerous and the more deregulation the more they want to feast on everything you and I have. You think too highly of the people trying to maximize profits. It seems naive that they would do only good thanks to the lack of regulations. If there were no regulations, what's to stop them from merging and creating the most powerful monopolies ever seen. Back to the bridge argument, who would pay these private companies to build this bridge that is nescesary. You leave a big blank here. Will they just build it for free out of the kindness of their haert? How does this company make a profit in this "free market" were is the competition? Do these companies compete to build bridges and infrastructure for free? What's their insentives besides money, and who gives it to them? If the money comes from people, that is taxation.

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  67. Jeff Fahrenkamp I know the differences already, but I'm still reading what I can today. I've had these links you've posted bookmarked from previous work so it's nice to see another posting it for others.

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  68. Diego Diaz Never did I ever ignore the fact that huge corporations exist and drive the government. That was my entire point! The government isn't there to do what you want it to do–it is there for them.

    "This gives them an unfair advantage against the consumer and other smaller businesses"

    Exactly! That is what gov't is for–to protect the big players from smaller competitors.

    "No consumer protection yields a system that takes advantage of the misfortuned."

    Why do you say that, then advocate for consumer "protection" provided by the gang in blue? How do you account for UL, which is a private company and certifies electronic appliances and other items for safety? All without government oversight and mandate?

    "It's a fact that economic bubbles, due to the lack of consumer protection, end up causing economic depression"

    Where do you get your "facts?" Economic bubbles are created by the central bank and their loose monetary policy.

    " You are against the corruption like me, but you need to realize that the corporations have created a fascist government over the decades and now have total control"

    That has been the point of government from the beginning. It has always been about protecting the position of parasites so they can prey on the productive. That is the point of taxation–the forced redistribution of the fruits of efforts against the owner's will.

    "Unregulated capitalism does away with American sovereignty and sends jobs overseas."

    No, that is the fault of government policy, which restricts business through labor laws and overregulation, and makes it harder and harder to hire local help.

    "Regulations to protect consumers such as, no more lead paint are good."

    I agree, but we don't need goons in government to make that happen. That is something that would come about in a free market of competing regulation agencies. The fact is that while you are trumpeting regulations such as this, you are ignoring the fact that the US gov't is the worlds' largest polluter. Who reins them in?!

    "If there were no regulations, what's to stop them from merging and creating the most powerful monopolies ever seen"

    A freed market whittles down big players into smaller ones. Conglomerates cannot withstand the ravages of unbridled competition in a free market. Government is required to create a full monopoly, because gov't is necessary to outlaw the monopoly's competition.

    "Back to the bridge argument, who would pay these private companies to build this bridge that is nescesary."

    Investors would. Do you think the only way to build a bridge is to extort people all over the city who may or may not want the bridge and might not ever use it? And are you telling me that absent government intervention, there would be no market at all for a bridge?

    "You leave a big blank here. Will they just build it for free out of the kindness of their heart? How does this company make a profit in this "free market"? were is the competition?"

    The company that makes tunnels, for example, or the other bridge down the street. Or maybe the helicopter business. Flying cars. The possibilities are endless, but are severely restricted due to government regulating the skies and enforcing their zoning laws.

    "Do these companies compete to build bridges and infrastructure for free? What's their insentives besides money, and who gives it to them? If the money comes from people, that is taxation."

    Their incentives are profit, just like any other company. The alternative is to put it into the hands of the politicians, so the incentives will be political capital instead of real capital. At least in a freed market, you never have to use a bridge you don't like, and you won't have to pay for it. But with government, you have to pay for it even if you never use it–even if you oppose it being built in the first place.

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  69. In my opinion, Legalize hemp products. *clothing,oils ect. Have the president do a "war" against jobs, *seems to work on drugs and terrorism* we went to "war" with that and look what we have more of. Equality pay for all of congress to match that of a average wage earner and non-exemption of this forced down our throats obummercare. Equal punishments for officers that civilians would have, *Accountability, Less sentence terms for misdemeanor crimes and allow inmates to do community work, Instead of keeping them locked up all day and night inside a building for months. *that costs a lot per individual that the tax payers have to pay. Ban cops from using lethal weapons on unarmed civilians Or enable the same rules of engagement that our military have to follow, *Cannot shoot unless shot at* Focus on repairing our country before getting involved in things over seas. Allow public opinion to override "grand jury" decisions. Taxes are to not exceed the world GPR. *if that is what it is called. Force congress and above to follow the constitution instead of making laws against it, Presidents are only allowed to take the same vacation time that we the people whom work are allowed to have, Presidential vacations must be paid out of the presidents own pocket or a decent PR towards it. *not over priced vacations to hawaii that the tax payers have to pay, Force companies to insource instead of outsourcing jobs. Allow protesting w/o the need for "permits" Or large group gathering laws fergisen reference, *sorry if spelled that wrong There is probably a lot more that can and should be done but, it's been a very long day with very little sleep. Allow free speech on the internet social sites, Social media sites ect not allowed to sell people's information w/o permission from the individuals to Advertisers. *To "force" people to give up the right to privacy online to use the site Should be illegal and held under extortion. Advertisers and companies are not allowed to "look" at or inside peoples cell phones,pictures,messages or track them in any way (private information) ect, Nor allowed to "track" peoples cell phones. *Unless they have done something illegal and they are the suspect* Of course all of these are all in my opinion. Just a few ideas in my opinion.

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  70. Stoic Nietzschean Even "good cops" are bad for allowing their colleges to practice out of line behaviors.

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  71. Hey Jared Emanuel I never said we needed to praise them I said to just notice that not all police are bad

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  72. Karlyn Koggi Hickey Sullivan Then maybe they should stop making laws that they themselves don't follow.

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  73. Rick Beck They actually protect their protection racket victims from harm by other rival gangs. They have a strong sense of family. They actually follow through on their contracts.

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  74. Rick Beck If they are silent they are not good cops either! wtfu Either you are a part of the solution or you are a part of the problem.

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  75. Ok so by protecting a gang member there a good person. Wow that's Really smart logic.

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  76. Also you guys are saying that one policeman in the entire United States never once said anything to another cop about what they are doing

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  77. Martin John Cullen You know, you're in Ireland, so IDK why you're bashing us. You guys got a far more oppressive system there than we do here in many respects & for alot longer. When y'all riot, y'all ain't got no guns or rifles, just beer cans, rocks & bullshit. I mean, it's admirable, but seriously, bashing America? I know we got our imperfections & being half Irish myself, I have a strong connection to all Irish, but still, come on. This country used to be a beacon of light, not anymore. For immigrants who come here legally, we are a light for them & I know this because I've met some people over the years who have come here from their less free countries, but many of us born here, hell no. I love my country & there's alot of great things about us but I hate the government. If you want 1 thing, how about we give more to this world in support than all other nations combined. That's not something to laugh at either.

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  78. All is lost. fight and die or just die.

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  79. Rick Beck Do you see the parallel? The police are just a gang, but they wear blue uniforms and have shiny badges. That they do some good things isn't relevant at all. You are just apologizing for them.

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  80. We are never gonna agree on this. You think the idea of government was a scam to begin with, I beg to differ. Hunting and gathering trives had a division of labor and also made sure that all their people were housed and got a part of the hunt. This is the earliest version of government, and as you can see, it was of for and by the people, it isn't until money came in the picture that it became oppressive. The idea of governance isn't flawed, but looking at it from now days I can see how one can look pessimistic. We agree on how today's government is the definition of fascist corruption, but there are ways to take back some power like we have done in the past. We have observed the best economic times during the 50s and 60s, why? Because we had regulations on the fascist in the firm of the new deal. Creating a minimum wage, raising wages all together, increasing union power to make sure that employees had a say, and other things like Healthcare and vacation benefits were able to be discussed. In an economy that would be driven by a free market, who would demand a better standard if the employees have no voice? The standard would be, if you don't like it you don't have to work for us.. this is wrong because employers shouldn't be allowed to abuse the labor market. The labor department is a non profit government organization that helps those abused employees and prevents further problems from the employer who tried to save a buck, because it's all about profits. In this free market economy, there would be no good jobs because if nobody says they need to pay their employees more then they won't sacrifice profits for labor costs. They don't do that now, and they never will.
    Let's get back to the bridge. Why is it profitable for investors to just give money to the construction of bridges? Where is their in sentiment (profit margin)? Are all civilians forced to go around a bridge they didn't built? What about roads, will they charge every citizen that uses it? That is tax my man

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  81. Diego Diaz "You think the idea of government was a scam to begin with, I beg to differ."

    Yes, and yours is a position of faith, not supported by the massive evidence from 5000 years of human history. Government is not about the little guy–it has always been and will always be by the elite, for the elite.

    I'll sklp the rest of that paragraph since it is catechism and dogma for the state.

    "Let's get back to the bridge. Why is it profitable for investors to just give money to the construction of bridges? Where is their incentive (profit margin)?"

    Why is it profitable for investors to give money to the construction of airplanes? Of automobiles? Of tennis shoes? Where does their incentive come from?

    "Are all civilians forced to go around a bridge they didn't built?"

    Do you have the right to trespass on private property?

    "What about roads, will they charge every citizen that uses it?"

    A road should be private, and the owners have the right to charge for use. That is the way everything else is–roads are not special nor different.

    "That is tax my man"

    That's not a tax. It's not a tax if I charge you to mow your lawn with my mower. It's not a tax if I let you cross my land for a fee. Huge difference in type.

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  82. You and I have a very fundamentally different way to look at society, I believe that there are things that should not be for profit and that there should be public services that are freely available to the society. When we have social programs that allow people to move up. I believe in free education because an educated population is more productive and ends up paying it self. Two different world views, but one thing I'm sure we can agree on is that unless the rest of the world goes along, it would be impossible to truly change our economy. We are now a global system and if we change the rules only here it wouldn't work.

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  83. Diego Diaz "You and I have a very fundamentally different way to look at society, I believe that there are things that should not be for profit and that there should be public services that are freely available to the society."

    So you advocate slave labor? Because that is the only way you can get free services without yourself having to pay. There is no such thing as a free lunch, and if you want to distribute resources, someone has to actually do the labor, invent and maintain the machines, etc. It *has* to be for profit, or it's a net drain on society.

    "When we have social programs that allow people to move up. I believe in free education because an educated population is more productive and ends up paying it self."

    Quality education does not need to come from a university or a traditional Prussian-style school. So the very idea that you think people should be provided with free education that consumes a lot of labor is ridiculous. It's not a right–education is a privilege. I agree that it's nice, but when education is brought over the barrel of a gun, it's morally bankrupt.

    Again, free services are a pipe dream and the reality is that when government provides "freebies", it harms society.

    "Two different world views, but one thing I'm sure we can agree on is that unless the rest of the world goes along, it would be impossible to truly change our economy. We are now a global system and if we change the rules only here it wouldn't work."

    The rest of the world will only change when we change as individuals, one mind at a time. As the truth wills out, more and more people will reject the dogma of the state, and governments will collapse under their own weight. Revolutions don't work. Voting doesn't work. Nothing works except the wholesale rejection of the initiation of aggression by the peaceful, productive people of the world.

    Peace and freedom to you, my friend.

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  84. The idea of a free society sounds pretty unbelievable from our point of view now, however it isn't so impossible if you take a few things into account. For example, these limited resources we use now for fuel are gonna run out. So how will we power our civilization? Free energy. We have unlimited energy resources, we are just forced to exhaust the dirty ones for a profit to the few. If we are able to completely shift to a free energy society, then we would be able to have a "free society". The idea is not totally ridiculous as you might think. You should look up. "The Venus project" also "thrive: what on earth will it take" they will help you see what I'm talking about. If energy is free then we can literally do anything free of cost, if we can design machines that take care of all the mindless jobs that are a waste to human life and potential. We could have a world were everyone is fully educated for free, because nothing would cost any energy, because the energy is unlimited and no one profits from it. Like nobody profits in a national forrest. With energy being free, we could have unlimited everything, literally, and this isn't something out of a science fiction novel. Why do things cost money to make? Because the production requires energy, a woeker and electricity or some other fuel that does work. You must pay the worker and the energy company that provides the coal or petroleum. If the job was fully automated, which is were we are headed already, and the energy is free and unlimited, then the resources become truly unlimited for everyone. There is no Reason why every human being shouldn't be able to explore their full potential. If you think about it, a big problem in our society is that a lot of people are not doing something that they are passionate about. They are working a job that makes their existence miserable to say the least. Why do we conform to this? One idea is to radically change how we Bring up our children. In a free society I could only imagine that the low level jobs areally no longer available since the majority will be automated, if you are still skeptical you can try "the singularity is near". This leaves our children, from a very early age, to be able to explore their imagination and discover what they are truly passionate about. People discover their passion through experiences, and the sad reality we live in now neglects some from this "privilege", bit I like to think of it as a part of your humanity that everyone should be entitled to. We could stop worrying about pointless stress that is made up by our society that runs on money. Money wouldn't exist in the is society because resources would be unlimited, yes even water. How do you make potable water? Purification could cost a lot of money now days, but we have desalination technology that if applied properly could solve every humans need for it. If it cost nothing then we can do it unlimitedly. We have the ability to shift to a society like this one, we just need to stop using fossil fuels and have people wake up to the reality of fascist oppression.

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  85. Actually, you have a point here. Some police officers do get "bad martial arts" training. Or in other words, just enough training to be dangerous.

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  86. Don Thomas I would invite any one to study an art and compare it to police training and find the inner meanings for problem solving. I have found such things in several martial arts, but all i see in that study is the martial side of things, leaving the art to so called 'lesser men'. Meatheads, given guns to solve problems who rely soley (in the majority of cases) on their weapons and do not understand how to peacefully solve a problem. I can assure you this can be accomplished, as i have done so many times. Guns are not the problem, as we would see the same problems if we all carried swords. I would like to make one last point, while I have an ear: the police are directly comparative to the samurai: they are their own social class, the only ones allowed to carry certain weapons (some weapons having no restrictions to HOW they are carried), and they are trained a variety of martial tactics for a higher power. However, they are not samurai, far from it: they generally have ZERO ethical standards in comparison. They will not write hykus, teach for a better world, or die for a greater cause- they will die for what they believe to be a greater cause, but that does not make it so.
    Thank you, so often i meet opposition with such simple points.

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  87. While it is true that a police officer's use of force may not equate the level of discipline or artfulness of the legendary samurai class, the vast majority of police arrests (even when met with violent resistance) do not end in gunplay. This is a fact supported by FBI reports. Nevertheless, cops should embrace more responsibility for getting into good physical shape and then matching that with constant mental/physical training on how to use that force.

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