NYPD Cops Stop Patrolling Streets, Crime Rates Begin Falling; Traffic Violations Down 94%

December 31, 2014   |   Justin King

Justin King
December 31, 2014

(ANTIMEDIA) New York City – The New York Police Department has decided that its “wartime” strategy is to simply not do their jobs.

The NYPD made the move after two cops were killed in reprisal for Eric Garner’s death. With NYPD publicly stating they are just going to worry about protecting themselves, something interesting happened: nothing. The city didn’t erupt into riots, there is no reported crime wave, super villains have not taken over the streets of Gotham.

The pro-police media narrative fed by a constant stream of press releases from New York cop unions, associations, and fraternities basically says that because the Mayor didn’t support NYPD in the wake of the Eric Garner decision the NYPD stopped working in protest. This is a blatant lie.

The NYPD went on the wartime footing and began ignoring offenses not when the Mayor made his remarks, but when two of their own were ambushed while sitting inside of a patrol car. This isn’t a political statement by NYPD, it’s the act of a group of people who are scared. For years NYPD has been able to do whatever they want to whomever they want and suffer no consequences. More than a quarter of the people killed by the NYPD were unarmed. Misconduct resulting in a lawsuit is a daily occurrence.

There has been no counterattack from the population until now. The NYPD likes to play up all of the officers that died “in the line of duty” to justify its brutal behavior. Aside from the two officers killed in reprisal, not a single officer was shot and killed in 2014. In fact, prior to the reprisal, the last cop killed by gunfire was in 2011. Prior to 2011, the last time an NYPD cop was intentionally killed by gunfire was 2007. In 2009, there was another officer killed by gunfire but he was shot by other NYPD cops that opened fire because well… He was a black man with a gun.

In short, NYPD kills more unarmed people in a year than they’ve had officers shot and killed in the last 7 years. In the last five years, NYPD lists 25 “in the line of duty” deaths on the Officer Down Memorial Page. Only 3 were at the hands of a “bad guy,” and that includes the two killed in reprisal. The overwhelming majority of NYPD officers killed are attributed to a broadly defined “9/11 related illness.” If an officer dies of cancer, for example, and the NYPD connects that death to 9/11 then the officer’s family gets paid. They’re just looking out for their own.

The NYPD is just like any playground bully; when somebody strikes back they cry and tell the teacher. Well the teacher in this case is Mayor de Blasio who is responsible for dealing with the endless stream of lawsuits generated by the department’s misconduct. The bully took his ball and went home, but it seems nobody misses the bully or the ball.

Arrests are down 66%. Traffic violations are down 94%. Criminal Court Summonses are down 94%. There is no public outcry. There is no crime wave. The NYPD’s move just showed that all of the rhetoric about being the thin blue line between order and chaos is complete garbage. These aren’t just petty offenses being overlooked as the national media is attempting to frame it. The NYPD’s Organized Crime Control Bureau has had an 84% drop in drug related arrests. If you believe the propaganda, this is one of those units that supposedly stops wild marijuana junkies with needles hanging out of their arm from breaking into apartments and burning down churches after they use the American flag as toilet paper. Reefer madness has not paralyzed New York.

The NYPD has shown clearly that they are overstaffed and overfunded. If they can all basically stop work without causing major issues, maybe we have too many cops on the streets. It also demonstrated that all of the talk about the NYPD being the “sheepdogs” who are responsible for keeping the wolves from eating the citizens of the city is nothing more than empty propaganda. The NYPD won’t respond to a call without two units being dispatched now. So, all the talk about them rushing into danger to save your life is also mindless propaganda. They won’t even respond to a shoplifter without two units, which means 4 officers. They certainly aren’t going to go into a dangerous situation for you or your loved ones.

The NYPD proved they care nothing about the community when they gambled with crime in the city. NYPD was hoping for a crime wave so they could pressure the Mayor. They were hoping that the people who they are supposed to protect and serve would become victimized so they could justify their brutality. It backfired. It’s time to slash NYPD’s budget and manpower. Thanks to unions playing politics, the citizens know the force doesn’t need to be as big as it is, and it certainly doesn’t actually care about the citizens of the city.

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Justin King joined Anti-Media as an independent journalist in July of 2014. His topics of interest include activism, human rights, international relations, and military affairs. Born in Japan, he currently resides in the United States.

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  1. the crime reports are submitted by police when the offenders are arrested. by the logic from this masterpiece article, if we have no police, there will be no crime–police causes crime.

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  2. im glad that NY hasn't dissolved in to total anarchy but I really must say I am disappointed with the author and this site for twisting the numbers to support their position. Of course traffic violations are down 94%, the only way to get a traffic violation is for officers to write them. It doesnt mean people have stopped speeding all of a sudden, it just means that no one has written them a ticket.

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  3. So justifying more cops by more arrests is allowing the police to manufacture their own need via quotas? Thanks.

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  4. Justin King because we have laws against speeding and blowing through red lights for a reason? People cannot be trusted to actually follow said laws on their own? Even if you try to say that police manufacture the numbers which keep them employed, at the end of the day the bulk of those tickets they used to manufacture the need were still individuals who broke the law

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  5. Justin King You're saying that the cops are making false arrests?

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  6. There is nothing better than watching Justin King troll people into admitting his point.

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  7. Protip: actually read the article and not just the headline. He never mentions crime rate in the article. Lol.

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  8. Matthew Wypyszinski cop cocksucker and part of the military industrial complex

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  9. Perhaps the main reason for the reduced numbers is there are no cops writing the tickets. It isn't that those things are not occurring it's that the cops aren't stepping in to stop them. Eventually the citizens will notice the "freedom" they have to do as they please and they will. I don't think I would want to be in NYC when that happens.

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  10. Pavel, I'm guessing you're new to this debate and this site. Yes, they make false arrests.

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  11. Of course they're making false arrest. 47% of the time.

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  12. Justin King This is like The Onion, isn't it?

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  13. They have way too many cops. They get bored and they start rambling for things to do. It's like leaving a kid in a room full of markers.

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  14. NYPD just found out that THEY were the crime wave!

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  15. DeFernandeze Hill If this is hypothetically true, what should we do? Getting rid of the police won't keep you safe from the criminals, and I don't know what little haven you live in, but the crime is real. If there's no police, what's going to deter the criminals? Are you going to sit there with a 12 gauge on the porch all day and all night?

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  16. Well, is it rocket science? You no longer have terrorists going up to people and challenging them to exert their rights; then when they do- arresting them for resisting an arrest…that never had a basis to begin with. Without cops to extort money at every opportunity; counting every human error as a crime- I bet crime has fallen! This cop tantrum is like; The Boston Strangler, Hitler, Ebola, The Plague, or jock itch saying…"you're going to miss me when I'm gone!" Let every one of the cops refusing to do their jobs, go, LIKE ANY OTHER EMPLOYER IN THE FUCKING WORLD. I just don't know why it needs to be said, over and over again…we are paying the wages of our insubordinate terrorists, and blaming the ensuing unrest, on those with the balls, to scream that it's wrong.

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  17. Why are are the shooting of the two officers being referred to as reprisal killings? The man who killed them was mentally ill and not an activist or politically motivated. Why would we give the NYPD and by extension all PD the power to call what were tragic but ultimately random killings the ability to call the deaths reprisals?

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  18. Actually Pavel, you moron, citizens report crimes.

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  19. Jacksonville, FL is bigger than NYC and we have way less cops. Figure it out.

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  20. Wade Dewell says the man who is spoon fed news about as accurate as any of the drivel that comes from faux news and accepts it

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  21. Jessy Kimbro did you and I actually read the same article? "Arrests are down 66%. Traffic violations are down 94%. Criminal Court Summonses are down 94%"

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  22. DeFernandeze Hill They gave up?

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  23. Good question. I debated on the right word to use. While he was ill, his motivation seems pretty clear. Whether he was linked to accountability activists or not doesn't really matter. Indications are that he wanted to get even. You're right in the sense that it is bad pr for the movement even though he isn't affiliated, but I honestly believe the word is most accurate. I don't want to change from being an advocate to being a propagandist. Part of being blunt is being blunt even when it doesn't sit well with what you want the truth to be.

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  24. Daniel Herzog No need to insult somebody you don't know, even if they are wrong. Second, the citizens report the crimes to the police, the stats are taken from there, not a door-to-door census.

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  25. Justin King thanks for the response. I appreciate your reasoning even if I disagree with the phrase. Keep up the good work.

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  26. Yes. Now as I said, did he mention a drop in real crime? Crime rates? Nope. He simply states there is no crime wave. He got you to read the article and see that NYPD gambled with the citizen's lives. They wanted rampant crime. They didn't get it. If this is your first Justin King article, welcome to the rabbit hole.

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  27. Jessy Kimbro You and I are reading this two different ways then I guess because in using numbers like that it seems to me that the Justin is using the numbers to trick some readers into believeing that there has been an actual drop in crime rate (and from reading some of the replys to this i can see where a few of them have been/could be).

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  28. Because the NYPD isn't arresting people and writing traffic tickets you think the crime rate is falling? I've heard liberals are infantile in their logic but that is absurd. Give it some time for the criminal element to get up to speed with their new freedoms. Oh and make sure your gun free zone signs are clearly visible.

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  29. Jessy Kimbro also, i fully read the article before i even responded so he didnt get me to do anything with his replys, i was caught by his flashy title since i had not known that the NYPD decided to quit doing their job (not that they did it very well to begin with)

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  30. Matthew Wypyszinski Oh man when people think they know and they have no idea it's hilarious. This is just addressing your speeding garbage real quick. Do you even know that the federal gov't forced speed limits? This was one of the stipulations of giving OUR tax dollars as federal funding to states to build roads. This also forced a federal law on drinking age and then laws for speeding, knowing is half the battle, GO JOE. Crime numbers have always been artificially high because it makes the NYPD look good they were hoping all hell would break loose but it hasn't. Why there is comments of, "well we don't need police", who wants blame protestors for police deaths yet you and others like you don't believe we can't go to extremes either. IMO if these LEO's don't wanna work and act like children they should be canned and their pension taken because they are the peoples SERVANTS not the other way around. We stop working at our jobs we would get canned.

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  31. I don't have anything nice to say about the NYPD.

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  32. I think what they really believe is that the loss of revenue to the municipal coffers from lack of traffic stops is going to send the politicians' knickers into a twist and they will get everything they want, including a return to their normal – the Blue Wall and the Code of Silence. Don't be fooled. There is method to this madness. We still have a fight on our hands here.

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  33. Justin King I agree, people should be able to deal drugs, steal, run red lights/stop signs, speed, etc. Small stuff who gives a sh-t…amirite?

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  34. When a 911 call is processed, a report is generated. This means that the small percentage of 911 calls were addressed but that the police were not "looking" for someone to arrest which apparently is most of their "business". I have been told this by a few cops after their retirement. They have quotas which means they look for crime or what they "perceive" as crime. Perception on their part is gaining them lawsuits by the hundreds.

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  35. For traffic violations, the question that must be asked: are accident numbers higher? that's the whole purpose to traffic citations, is it not?

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  36. Ryan Wilson I would think traffic violations would be a lumped sum of moving and parking violations.

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  37. Possibly the dumbest headline I have ever read. If these numbers were even half way true, WHERE DO YOU THINK CRIME RATES COME FROM????? Crime wouldn't be down, people just aren't getting arrested for breaking the law you freaking idiots! Do you really think cops would just stop "Doing their job"?
    Come on people…

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  38. Jessy Kimbro Are you giving advice to read the article. First sentence, 7th paragraph… "Arrests are down 66%. Traffic violations are down 94%. Criminal Court Summonses are down 94%." Sounds like her point is pretty valid. Reported crimes were down since the those that report them are no longer doing so. Do you see the correlation yet?

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  39. Pavel Pozdnyakov what will deter the criminal is in fact my twelve gauge.If i have to carry it 24/7 so be it !

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  40. They still have no clue. When they do get a clue they will justify it.

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  41. The murders of the two officers had nothing to do with Eric Garner. That is shoddy reporting.

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  42. This is a complete farce. Crime is down because the cops aren't arresting them???? What I know you people out there have more brains than to just accept this claptrap!

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  43. Pavel Pozdnyakov It's not about getting rid of the police, just shrinking the department down to a functional, but non-threatening level. When a guy gets pulled over and asks why, and the cop arrests him for being belligerent, that is abuse of power. When a kid makes a smart-ass comment and gets kicked to the ground and has his ribs broken, that is abuse of power. And why a lot of people have stopped trusting police.

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  44. Leo Khe No one is saying get rid of cops, just cut back their numbers. NYC ranks #5 in most police per capita behind Newark, Baltimore, Chicago, and Philadelphia; twice as many as Houston and Los Angeles. Add to those numbers the increasing militarization of police and what you have are people afraid of the city's "army". For good reason.

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  45. Yes that was bait, and something he glossed over. The point is that NYPD has stopped enforcing and that there isn't a crime wave. The point is that the NYPD gambled with citizen safety. The "heroes" in blue set it up for people to get killed in traffic accidents and evil dug dealers to justify their existence. Nothing happened. You're so focused on the stats that you didn't even realize the other information you absorbed. Stick around. This page has some of the best journalists anywhere. Check out the other journalists too. They all have different styles but they really educate and give the parts of the story the rest of the media ignores. Cassius shit can't remember his last name and Cary Wedler are two other ones to read. This who site has the brightest minds in the media.

    Also the other point: the cops had this big an impact on "crime" when they wanted to lower the numbers, remember that next time they spike before an election or a budget review. Get it?

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  47. DeBlasio should start NYPD layoffs – 20% to start and then additional 5% per week until 50% are laid off.

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  48. Pavel Pozdnyakov in response to what should we do without police? gun rights? pretty sure everyone has the right to defend themself, get a concealed carry permit or open carry

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  49. Actually, the guy kind of made political statements about cops before the attack. I would argue that this was a mentally unstable person with a political motivation. "Reprisals" still might be a questionable choice of word, but there's plenty of evidence for political motive.

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  50. Certainly, but what they've inadvertently done is given the people of NYC a glimpse into what a significantly less bloated police department could do for their quality of life. There's nothing like a taste of (comparative) freedom to raise people's expectations.

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  51. Give it time, this is the first snowball in an avalanche that people are not going to like. They stop harassing the homeless pee'ing in doorways, and pretty soon most doorways will stink of urine. Stop writing traffic tickets, people driving habits go to hell, accidents will start going up, people maimed, insurance rate will skyrocket. Petty crime not pursued, then the everyday crook will be emboldened, and pretty soon if it's not tied down or guarded (will cost business money passed onto consumer) it will disappear. Won't happen over night, maybe even 6 month to a year, but will take a decade to correct when people start whining. Crime didn't go down, it's statistically not being addressed, it will take time for the effect to be quantified. What police officers do is "rude" under normal circumstances but society "backs them up" and says we want you to handle these things so they do … if society doesn't back them up, then they don't cross that line, however don't bitch and gripe when you "get what you asked for."

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  52. How can you write an article almost trying to justify the execution of two police officers in cold blood as a "counterattack from the population". This wasn't "the population" it was a person who decided that they are going to "take matters into their own hands" probably after reading an article such as this. That is not the way to do things, we are a civilized country. There are corrupt cops, that's no secret, but the majority of police officers do want to protect and serve us. When it hits the fan, who do you call? them. Stop making this a war on police and focus your attention on the investigation of corrupt officers. Stop justifying more violence! Peacefully protest, gather, write your congressperson, start a petition, something! But not this!!

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  53. I wholeheartedly agree with this article. But one thing I don't get that makes me laugh: If the police have temporarily quit, then why shouldn't we expect arrests and violations to be down?? Lol Shouldn't it all be down 100%?? 🙂 It doesn't seem to be stating that actual crime is down, but the arrests of crimes…. All I could think was, um…. duh?? Lol Maybe I'm missing something here. Don't get me wrong, I think there are too many cops and they are overprotected and they abuse their power and all that, but those statements kinda made me lol just a bit. 🙂

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  54. Duh, crime hasn't stopped, they just aren't enforcing laws, dumb article

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  55. They would if they have an agenda. Plenty of people strike on their jobs for unfair working conditions, and the like, but in the case of the NYPD, they 'quit' to attempt to prove a point, and their point backfired. They wanted crime to overwhelm the streets, so that their brutality would be justified. They would be allowed to shoot unarmed civilians over the smallest altercations, and would be able to get away with it. They are throwing the baby out with the bath water to try and get things their way.

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  56. It doesn't take criminals 'time' to get up to speed with their new freedoms. If you are a murderer, then you'll be a murderer whether you are in a police state, or not.

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  57. You are missing the entire point. Ignore the numbers. This article isn't about that. This article is about the fact that the police have quit doing their jobs because they are angry that the people they have sworn to protect and serve are tired of being abused, and misused. The NYPD are basically throwing a giant temper tantrum, and are in a corner, with their arms crossed, holding their breath, with tears streaming down their face. They don't want to accept accountability for their actions. and are going to continue pouting until the populace decides to let them have their way. They gambled with the lives of the people they were sworn to protect, and all they managed to prove is that NYC doesn't need as many police officers as they are paying for.

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  58. Man, I swear. People are blind as hell, aren't they? So, from that entire article, all you noticed was the statistics, right? You didn't notice that the people who are sworn to protect and serve are playing russian roulette simply because they don't want to be held accountable for their mistakes? They want to be able to abuse, and strip away civilian rights and liberties…They want to be able to kill, molest, rape, assault, and steal with impunity, and get paid for it. They are willing to gamble with the lives of the innocent civilians of NYC just to prove a point. That is the point of this article. They are mad, and don't want to do their jobs because the populace asked them to be adults.

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  59. Emanuel L Campbell III That's not really true. In every town where gun ownership goes up the incidence of crime goes down. Detroit is a recent example. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jul/16/detroit-police-chief-says-armed-citizens-are-curbi/ As deterrence increases we see an inverse correlation. Criminals are like jackals. They prefer their prey disarmed. Disarm the citizenry and remove the police and you will have effectively removed all deterrence and emboldened criminals who might otherwise think twice.

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  60. Maybe I'm missing it, but were there any sources posted for the percentage statistics listed in this article? I'm sure they are accurate, I just always appreciate sources before I share with friends!

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  61. No, you completely see the point, just haven't made the connections yet. Read some of the responses to the other comments about the stats.

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  62. This doesn't mean the crime rate went down because of lack of cops. It just means less people are getting caught for the crimes they commit. Crime rates are based on numbers generated by convictions in court.

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  63. This is stupid article with misleading stats. "94% decrease in traffic violation" Well, no shit, there arent any cops to stop the idiots on the road. dumb article.

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  64. When these attacks occur anywhere else in the world, it's a reprisal killing or sectarian violence or insurgent activity or anti government action. Only in the United States do people think being mentally ill means you can't have a political motive. I'm not going to call it a "cold-blooded murder," the victims were armed and on duty. It was a counterattack. Investigating cops doesn't do any good. They just won't get indicted. Until these mythical good cops step forward and help prosecute the bad, they're are at the very least accessories to the crime. Violence against cops doesn't need me to justify it. 1000 dead Americans last year has justified it pretty well. I don't support violence against the state, not because I don't think it will work, but because it triggers a cycle of violence and crackdown that Americans aren't ready for. I'm not trying to justify anything, but this does seem to prove the theory that "if you shoot one or two of them, the rest will behave." I applaud your commitment to nonviolence. Ask yourself what it would be called of security services in Northern Ireland had killed a string of unarmed people and the IRA grabbed a couple of cops and shot them?

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  65. The red highlighted words are links. The stats come from the NY post working with the nypd's numbers

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  66. Matthew Wypyszinski Actually many studies show that stop light cameras, and ticketing has no real major effect on speeding. People who are going to speed are going to speed.

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  67. How stupid are you to write this articlw? If no one is around to write the ticket it doesn't mean crime is down, it means reported crime is down. And just because someone is unarmed does not automatically mean they can't be a major threat. Apparently logic isn't necessary to get a job at this joke of a media outlet. On the plus side, being smarter than you makes me feel good about myself.

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  68. Anthony Mims I would be interested in seeing that evidence, because aside from the "one of ours, two of theirs" statement – which is hardly political – I have seen nothing that suggests activism, but I will admit that I have not read very widely on Brinsley's background.

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  69. This is hands down the most ridiculous article I have ever read. For you ignorant readers out there, there's a little thing called enforcement. You can have all the laws you could ever think of but if the police aren't enforcing them then clearly there is going to be a drastic drop in the incidents of said offenses. Pretty common sense but if you need to read that from some Justin King who would lead you to believe he's some authority on news that "isn't covered by corporate media" and then be surprised by it when you read it then I guess he is serving his purpose.

    Furthermore, the most outrageous part of this article is the undertones with which you're writing, suggesting that the police are "scared" and saying that they aren't going into any dangerous scenarios for anyone's loved ones. Let me know the next time one of your piece of shit co workers sitting behind a computer writing articles all day gets shot in the back of the head and then let me know who's "scared." Also I can guarantee you that 99% of the readers don't even know what your referring to with your colorful depiction of reefer madness. That type of sentiment towards marijuana hasnt been held since the middle of the 20th century and just makes you look stupid. Everything's not black and white. Just because it's still a crime doesn't mean there are outlandish reasons behind it. I'm actually in support of marijuana legalization but i can tell by your writing you must think that all drugs are just fine and shouldn't be criminalized, showing your naivety.

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  70. Justin Mann In many states you cannot just go and GET a CCW. You need to prove that there's a danger to your life, usually, surviving an attack in the fast track to getting a CC permit.

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  71. Samuel R Hayes III So? If that's true, that cop should be in prison. How does a cop's criminal behavior justify any of this? Please explain.

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  72. DeFernandeze Hill Jacksonville is bigger than NYC? In what alternate universe? Jacksonville has about 850,000 residents, NYC has over 8 million. Of course Jacksonville will have fewer cops.

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  73. Pavel Pozdnyakov If cops actually deterred crime, why is there so much crime? Police exist more to "keep order" than to control crime, which is why they spend more time criminalizing semi-law-abiding people (speeders, jaywalkers, etc.) than apprehending felons.

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  74. Marat Bandemer Regardles of how I answer this question you will not believe me that the crime occurs without cops or that the cops do anything to deter the crime. It's best to find out on your own– go live in Chiapas, Mexico for a year.

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  75. Alternatively, buy a house in Detroit.

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  76. Marat Bandemer As for the MUCH part, I agree with you. But the answer to that problem is more police force, not less. It is also not the answer you want to hear.

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  77. Pavel Pozdnyakov More police has been done. Gestapo, KGB, etc. Is that the world YOU want? I don't. I refuse to be criminalized because I "might" commit a crime someday. I refuse to be browbeaten (or just beaten) by public servants whose salaries I (in part) pay. What percentage of citizens are criminals (excluding traffic offenses)? Closest number I can find is in the federal statistics for 2010 in which there were 161,000 cases tried and 198,000 defendants. If we figure that the states' numbers triple that number, there were about 800,000 crimes tried, of which 35% were felonies (call it 300,000). That means at worst 1 in 1000 citizens is a criminal, yet you want MORE police? Sorry, but I cannot agree. There exists now about a 1.5:1 ratio of cops to felons. That's plenty.

    Regarding your comment about Mexico: we are discussing the US, not a country in which the government and police are openly paid for by drug cartels. Regarding Detroit, all large cities are more crime-infested than the nation as a whole.

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  78. I'm superseded someone could write something like this as if every cop on the force is a bad guy. You guys make it seem as if they also don't have families to feed and people to look after. Despicable

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  79. what a silly, little article. Common sense would bitch-smack anyone dumb enough to stand in it's way for thinking crime rates wouldn't go up if the NYPD 'actually' stopped doing their job. I had to re-read the part where the author proselytizes the amazing ability of the populace to police itself by stating arrests are down by 66%… after he stated that the cops have stopped patrolling the streets. lol. what a boob!.. so who arrested the 34%. Barney Fife?
    In all honestly, how quick would the author of this ridiculous piece of misinformation.. or any of the other faculty challenged individuals giving it the written equivalent of a sophomoric high-five, be to move into New York City if the police and courts all but disappeared.
    Not quick at all is the answer. You want them on that wall!. You need them on that wall!
    This might just be the dumbest thing I've read all year.

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  80. Justin King has made you all resort to name-calling and insults since he has out-debated every one of you. Instead of resorting to 2nd grade bully tactics just admit, you've been owned.

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  81. fire ALL THOSE tin star thugs and start from scratch on a new force- including all the upper pigs

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  82. Well it's only the first of the year, I'm sure something else will knock me out of the lead eventually. When that happens, let me know and I'll write something else you can congratulate yourself on for misunderstanding.

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  83. Justin, I don't think I misunderstood any of the propaganda you typed. None. Let me quote you and then ask for verification of said quote… when you can't provide any, we'll let that serve as proof of your biased, agenda propagating journalism skills. Yes?

    " the citizens know the force doesn’t need to be as big as it is, and it certainly doesn’t actually care about the citizens of the city."

    Do you have anything conclusive to back up your statement? A segment of NY's population to serve as a control to your hypothesis? Was it vetted in any more a professional manner than yourself and couple of buddies sitting around espousing anti-establishment rhetoric while patting each other on the crotch? How many citizens did you ask.. lol…
    Let me ask you this. What is the population of NYC, it's square mileage? How many officers are employed per individual, how many men in blue uselessly crowd each square mile?
    Do you know any of these things?
    No you don't… at least not while reading this reply.
    Does the potential number of crimes taking place, in relation to a city's population, dictate the number of police needed to counter them, or is it a less reactionary thing and based more on how much money there is to waste?
    You're a goof and you're first mistake was typing this article. You're second was responding to me. I live to chew up noobs like yourself who type before they think. Peace brother.. and remember.. when you really need a cop, don't bother calling, just use what you wrote above to protect yourself.

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  84. Lol dumbest shit I've read. U want to count all the unarmed people killed by the NYPD so I'm guessing that includes garner? But u only want to include cops that are shot in the line of duty? Wonder y. Maybe so u can skew the facts in ur defense.

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  85. I can assure you that you misunderstood the article, or perhaps you're just overridden by cop-worship. You close your original post by quoting an archetype of dictatorial power. Understand that when the men on the walls in NY open fire, in more than 25% of the cases, they killed someone who was unarmed. Sounds like real heroism to me.

    You close your second part by trying to use fear to persuade by raising the hypothetical situation of me needing a cop. That tells me more than you can even imagine about your psychology. You're scared and need big daddy government to protect you. If you have to create some bogeyman to justify your position, you are wrong. If you have to use the force of the men on the walls to enforce your position, you're wrong.

    As far as all the angry questioning that is designed to show that you know what you're taking about in between, it really shows that you misunderstood the article and didn't take the time to read the other comments where people explained it.

    Your heroes in blue gambled with the city's safety when this work slow down happened.

    The cops stopped being tough on crime and nothing happened. No mass of rapes, robberies, and murders.

    To the point of all of your questioning: these figures are the ones used by NYPD to justify more cops when they are high. Now they are low, that should mean less cops, right?

    As your ever so intelligent liner of questioning shows, NYPD controls the numbers, therfore the numbers aren't a very good barometer of the need for cops, are they?

    Even a noob like me knows you just realized that your argument proved my point (you know, the one you were so certain you understood). My initial response was a joke because this happens a lot here. People show up, react in a typical knee jerk way and don't realize that our goal here is not to tell you what to think, it's to make you think for yourself.

    If after this, you still believe that those that gambled with your safety to prove a political point and routinely use numbers they are in total control of to scare you are somehow the people you want on the walls, by all means support that position. Just remember that once armed men are on those walls to keep the bogeyman out, all they have to do is about face to keep you in. You are supporting the creation of a police state.

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  86. Lol. That "some Justin King" guy is a former military contractor, former bodyguard to a national security council member, who used to instruct cops, and has been shot twice. So we can listen to his take on it, or we can take the server from Dave and busters formerly a server at Land and Cattle as the expert.

    From what I understand he doesn't even smoke pot. If you're going to call someone out as naive, you might want to be sure his resume doesn't make him look like Chuck Norris.

    (I'm a server too.) Lol

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  87. I never told anyone to listen to me. I'm not the one writing an article, just pointing out the stupidity of one that I stumbled upon. And to be quite honest if that's what he used to do then maybe he should have stuck with that than to attempt writing. If chuck Norris was online writing a bunch of bull I would call him out on it too. Credentials don't equate to infallibility.

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  88. Justin I didn't misunderstand anything. Among other nonsense stats, you said NYC has too many cops and the people of New York agree, I asked you to prove that conclusively. You avoided the question because that's what people who talk outta their ass do… they ignore the things that would show them for the fools they are. I'm not going to keep arguing with someone like yourself; communication is a very simple thing: you state something-I ask you to prove it-you prove it and shut me up.
    Since you can't do that, you're not worth my time… or even the integrity of your own words. Just another empty head.
    Maybe you should try being a cop for year or so instead of an ideal filled, message board activist.
    You simply have no idea and your article above speaks volumes toward your ignorance.
    Done.

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  89. making criminals is like their own personal 'make work' project..lots of paper work lots of ot..

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  90. Matthew, there are plenty of speed traps out there that generate money for they city. Most people do not brake the law because they do not want to harm other people, themselves and they do not want to destroy their vehicle. Most people have common sense.

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  91. We could count the nypd cops that are defrauding the city with this 9/11 related illness stuff.

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  92. The coolest thing is that he never comments on his articles. He planned this. Lol. Must have been in a really feisty mood.

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  93. Small town here .takes over a year to get a case through court .over load or over charged .

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  94. Statistics for crime rates don't just come out of thin air. They are made by police because they are the ones who report crime. Also I think people don't realize that the world is full of shit heads and some of them are given a gun and a badge and told to protect the citizens and do a really shit job at it. I have had many friends deal with their fair share of shit head cops, and have told me how unfair it can be to be harassed by them. However there are also the ones who do their job correctly and I kinda wish people would take that into account

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  95. as far as the traffic ticket rate falling, everybody who recieves a ticket is not Speeding people,.. the majority of new yorks violations are written for Parking, not speeding. speeding tickets play a small part in the city of new yorks violations. most of the traffic violations were opportunities for the police to pull over cars and check for contriband,. after finding nothing, it usually results in a seatbelt ticket. im sorry, you cannot justify bullshit with supposition,.. any questions, google it,..

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  96. Matthew Wypyszinski So we can't trust you to follow the laws and rules? SOMEONE ARREST THAT MAN! UNCIVILIZED CONDUCT!

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  97. Just keep spoon feeding the masses kool aid. Just how stupid are you people really? Of course traffic violations and crime rates are down. If nobody is enforcing the laws, then is nothing to keep track of violations. I am enjoying this though. I like watching the dumbest of the american population, tear their own country appart. Stupid niggers, spics, gooks and crackers. Just so ya know the rest of the world is laughing and enjoying the show. Keep up the good work.

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  98. Justin King Ooo Touche

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  99. Good, fire them. In fact have them arrested and the shit kicked out of them for their crimes against the city.

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  100. Bully Lynch's little ploy backfired. Knowing when not to overplay your hand is a critical part of contract negotiations. The boys in blue will turn on you in a heartbeat when you blow that contact for them. Well done! Lynch should have been out of that 176,000 job a long time ago. I hope this seals his fate.

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  101. Are you saying that if I call 911, and submit a police report, if they don't find anyone to arrest, they wont' record it?

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  102. Some of the laws of physics applied in human behavior and is thus proven by these fantastic results. If you approach people the wrong way they will respond the wrong way. In the case of a cop approaching someone in a wrong and unlawful way, it is inevitable that the person approached will react to what they feel is a violation of their right. The outcome is more often than not accredited criminal… I know this is so because I have lived it… I have been approached the wrong way and I responded in a manner that was consistent with the approach and of course in such situations the person violating the law is praised and the person defending his right lawfully is punished as the criminal. I'm not saying that is always the case. However there are many people that has a criminal record simply because they would not subdue to the abuse… I am proud of my city. Go New York.

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  103. does it not make sense to ANYONE that the reason "traffic violations are down" is because nobody is writing tickets for them??? lol I mean really.

    traffic violations, themselves, haven't gone down, the tickets written for them have,,

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  104. I don't see where you have addressed that stats issue at all?

    Less police to enforce means less crime reported, ergo crime stats go down. It's not that less crime is actually occurring.

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  105. The only citizens that don't know that now are too busy licking the boots of cops. Btw all of the nonsense stats are now being reported by cnn, time, cbs, and everyone else. So where does that leave your argument?

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  106. The police department, "THE BROTHERHOOD" , what the police union calls themselves, and in reality, they are the biggest street gang in the country, they are nothing but thugs with a badge, and they need to be dismantled for the safety of the People of Color in this country.

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  107. NYPD wants everyone to blindly respect their authority but turn their backs to the Mayor showing a complete disrespect of his authority. Give respect ,get respect

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  108. Yes many state have quotes of number of arrests and tickets each officer on patrol has to make. = Police are the Arm of the State to make them money.

    Why I think there needs to be a "Law Enforcement Guidelines and Authority Act" So they can't tell you whatever and you have to obey them.

    Justices Rule Police Do Not Have a Constitutional Duty to Protect Someone – New York Times
    http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/28/politics/28scotus.html

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  109. All you people are a**holes. I hope you need a cop and they don't come. You are a bunch of anarchist turds.

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  110. If CRIME DOES NOT GO UP SERIOUSLY, then we all will conclude that we've been OVER POLICED! We need better cops in some cities, I think. NY comes to mind. I'm so glad I live where I do…and I have no respect for the corrupt northeastern part of the US or the ignorant red-neck part of the South.. Fix yourselves or just keep enduring it! You aren't really part of the rest of us. You're the bad cousins we dont' talk about when we wave our flag.

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  111. Fire everyone who's not responding accordingly…crooked cops are part of the problem! All the people were asking for was for them to hold the crooked cops accountable, do your job Mayor of NY!

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  112. Why are they even employed if they are scared? You cant go into a dangerous job being scared and if your refusing to do your job thenstay home without pay. Furthermore some of these so call crimes are overrared and in these days shoukd not be required jail time its a waste of funds they should be put to work and/or placed on house arrest for half these petty crimes. Yes drugs are bad but that shoukd be a personal choice. If drugs wasnt illegal the cost wouldnt be high and drug dealers wouldnt be making money because the drugs would be legally accessable.

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  113. You do not have a fnin clue of whats going on. Because you dont see it or read it in the media. You probably dont even live in nyc. You dont know what is happening in the streets, or the hood.

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  114. It's the same standard anyway, if you only go after black people, than the cops can say statistically blacks commit the most crimes! Its why they profile, now that cops are only answering calls in groups, lets see what the stats show when the next report comes in!

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  115. This article cracked me up. Of course crime statistics are down. Of course traffic violations are down. No arrests, no records, lower numbers. No traffic tickets, no records of traffic violations. Doesn't mean its not happening, just means no one is doing anything about it. Lolol Statistics, gotta love how they can be manipulated. Creates gullible sheep left and right.

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  116. heh Justin King…. thought I'd drop some logic on you to further illustrate what a nonsensical goof this article is; as reading through the comments below, I've grown tired of watching you mistakenly 'thank' people for proving your point, along with having to endure the cheerleader section that exists to pat you on the back. When actually reading what you put above, it's more than apparent your entire article is a complete contradiction: here, see if you can keep up with me.
    You're contention is that the NYPD 'gambled' with the safety of the city.. you've stated this multiple times. In fact, in a previous reply to me, you basically said that's what your article is all about.
    Well, let's look at that.
    You said, 'The NYPD has shown clearly that they are overstaffed"
    then you said
    "The NYPD proved they care nothing about the community when they gambled with crime in the city" by decreasing the number of citations, stops, arrests etc.
    Here comes the gigantic, logic-sucking hole in your article that renders the entire thing completely moot, useless, and tragically incoherent.
    … and keep in mind, I'm using your reasoning, not my own… or the real worlds lol.
    If, by you own assertion, there's too many cops
    and then a segment of those cops decide to stop doing their job;
    wouldn't that, at least in the ridiculous way you see things, equalize the actions of the police force to a level more appropriate to the population?
    so with that being true… who's safety did the NYC police gamble with? hmm? hmmmm?
    following your logic to it's end, they didn't gamble with anyone's safety, they couldn't have… since there were too many of them in the first place.. by your understanding.
    Thank you.. thank you.. oh please, there's really no … no really, you're too kind.. thank you… lol…

    So maybe you'd care to explain again how they 'gambled' with the safety of the city when, by using your own words against you, I just proved they didn't., hell, you proved they didn't!
    and don't come back with blah, blah, blah… thank you for proving my point that there's too many cops.. blah, blah, blah because the job of a police force is to stop crime, so, as long as crime is still a relevant thing within a society that would lend itself to the reality that there aren't enough cops. Right? Of course! Do you think crime disappeared in NCY? do you?
    Here, let me break it down to level that might be better suited for you.
    Skittles. A bag of Skittles.
    In each bag there's roughly the same amount of deliciously, different colored candies.. suddenly the red Skittles decide they don't want to be included anymore and magically remove themselves when no one's looking. What attitude do the other, non red colored Skittles adopt, well they probably figure out that now there's more room for each of them, so they take over the spots previously held by the red Skittles. Does this happen overnight? No.. it would take a second for the other colored Skittles to realize that the red Skittles aren't coming back and they have the opportunity to multiply their numbers.
    Alright, on second thought, the Skittles analogy might be too advanced. I'll whip up something else and come back at you later.
    oh.. and that little emotion you feel at the front of your brain.. that would be the realization that I am mercilessly trolling you and enjoying every minute of it.

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  117. heh Justin King…. thought I'd drop some logic on you to further illustrate what a nonsensical goof this article is; as reading through the comments below, I've grown tired of watching you mistakenly 'thank' people for proving your point, along with having to endure the cheerleader section that exists to pat you on the back. When actually reading what you put above, it's more than apparent your entire article is a complete contradiction: here, see if you can keep up with me.
    You're contention is that the NYPD 'gambled' with the safety of the city.. you've stated this multiple times. In fact, in a previous reply to me, you basically said that's what your article is all about.
    Well, let's look at that.
    You said, 'The NYPD has shown clearly that they are overstaffed"
    then you said
    "The NYPD proved they care nothing about the community when they gambled with crime in the city" by decreasing the number of citations, stops, arrests etc.
    Here comes the gigantic, logic-sucking hole in your article that renders the entire thing completely moot, useless, and tragically incoherent.
    … and keep in mind, I'm using your reasoning, not my own… or the real worlds lol.
    If, by you own assertion, there's too many cops
    and then a segment of those cops decide to stop doing their job;
    wouldn't that, at least in the ridiculous way you see things, equalize the actions of the police force to a level more appropriate to the population?
    so with that being true… who's safety did the NYC police gamble with? hmm? hmmmm?
    following your logic to it's end, they didn't gamble with anyone's safety, they couldn't have… since there were too many of them in the first place.. by your understanding.
    Thank you.. thank you.. oh please, there's really no … no really, you're too kind.. thank you… lol…

    So maybe you'd care to explain again how they 'gambled' with the safety of the city when, by using your own words against you, I just proved they didn't., hell, you proved they didn't lol.
    and don't come back with blah, blah, blah… thank you for proving my point that there's too many cops.. blah, blah, blah because the job of a police force is to stop crime, so, as long as crime is still a relevant thing within a society that would lend itself to the reality that there aren't enough cops. Right? Of course! Do you think crime disappeared in NCY? do you?
    Here, let me break it down to level that might be better suited for you.
    Skittles. A bag of Skittles.
    In each bag there's roughly the same amount of deliciously, different colored candies.. suddenly the red Skittles decide they don't want to be included anymore and magically remove themselves when no one's looking. What attitude do the other, non red colored Skittles adopt, well they probably figure out that now there's more room for each of them, so they take over the spots previously held by the red Skittles. Does this happen overnight? No.. it would take a second for the other colored Skittles to realize that the red Skittles aren't coming back and they have the opportunity to multiply their numbers.
    Alright, on second thought, the Skittles analogy might be too advanced. I'll whip up something else and come back at you later.
    oh.. and that little emotion you feel at the front of your brain.. that would be the realization that I am mercilessly trolling you and enjoying every minute of it.

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  118. Justin, I have another question… if you're goal here is not to tell people what to think, but rather make them think for themselves (as you said in an earlier response to me) than why is your article so one sided. If you truly want people to think for themselves, wouldn't an article that presents both sides to a story be a better facilitator to that? You know.. present something with all opposing angles accounted for thereby letting the reader truly decide for themselves.. but, that's not what you did is it?
    Looks like I caught you again.
    You're kinda like my own personal chew toy you know that.

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  119. What they need to do is cut a lot of these corrupt officers. Anyone that's has more than 1 complaint, officers that can't pass a phsycological evaluation, do comprehensive unbiased background checks. It seems like too many people were hired after 9-11.

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  120. So because the police officers stopped arresting people, there were fewer crimes, or fewer reported crimes, or fewer arrests?
    It is kinda obvious, if the cops stop arresting people, you are going to see fewer arrests, because the cops stopped arresting people, because the cops went on strike?

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  121. This article is very very misleading
    . Do your own research on this first, read more into it so on and so on. Don't take one person's word for it. Also, talk to an actual NYPD cop maybe? Someone who walks the streets and is in the roughest parts of the city, get their take on it. I see these article from those who aren't police, working military and domestic are very difffrent. Always question and make sure the police are doing their jobs correctly, but stop being all high and mighty. None of u have walked in their shoes.

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  122. Do you see protesters disrupting traffic… Piling into department stores, blocking tunnels and bridges, storming into shops bothering and screaming at people? Yeah right… Nothing going on. BTW, crime stats are for the year/period, not for the last 2-3 weeks…. Nice try though… To twist facts… Typical

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  123. FUCK NYPD but… This article has some questionable details missing LIKE if theirs no cops WHOS REPORTING the crimes? How are traffic violations reported? …..LIKE I SAID FUCK NYPD BUT….lets BE SMARTER PROPLE

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  124. The writer missed the point, the police weren't hoping for chaos or a crime wave, if they were they wouldn't be enforcing anything, wouldn't be responding to murders or robberies. No the NYPD went after the cities revenues, NYC is losing millions in fines and fees from low level violations.

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  125. The article misses the mark I'm afraid, this isn't a protest to prove they are needed to the public. They don't give a shit about us. This is a hit in the pocket books of City Hall, this is a huge hit to their income generation aka Fines and Tickets.

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  126. This goes to police everywhere… We want you around! We need you around! Things are going to happen and you should be ready for them and be able to do your jobs safely. We will be glad you did… but what we need most of all from you? Is to stand with us, not against us. We are all citizens of this great nation. We are your sisters and brothers. Fathers and mothers. We work for you as much as you work for us. We don't want a militarized police force, or to be harassed for irrelevant things. We want to be trusted and treated with respect… We just want to know you are there. I promise you that from at least 98% of us, you'll get the same in return… Thank you for being there!

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  127. If they are not doing anything then yes, the numbers will seem to be an improvement when in actuality if nothing is being done, then nothing is being reported.

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  128. So Justin, you can't hang intellectually when someone points out your bullshit… you just disappear??
    What kind of activist is that???
    What kind of wannabe journalist is that??
    You jumped In the ring first with your nonsense article above and unlike these other sycophants I call you on it and you come back with nothing?
    Weak dude. Very weak!
    Prove what you said, defend your point of view.
    How did the NYPD gamble with peoples safety if there were too many cops to begin with?
    Who are the people you interviewed to come to the conclusion that all the citizens of New York think the police force is overstaffed?
    You said it.
    Back it up!

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  129. If they're not reporting any arrests or tickets of course the numbers are going to go down!

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  130. Glad to hear I wish they'd do that here in my home town. We have waaay to many cops and they al sit in their cars eating doughnuts at intersections waiting to pull over soccer moms and hard working dads for tail light out or speeding one mile over the limit. We are paying these lazy vultures to sit all day and do nothing anyone cares abut. Yet if someone seals your stuff, stalks you, harasses you, commits arson, robs a store, breaks into your garage etc the police do nothing because they are too lazy to do real police work and an't even lift a finger print. NY is a good example of citizens sick and tired of the police state creating criminals and harassing their people. Good riddance to bad rubbish.

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  131. I just wonder: If they stop patrolling and "doing their job" – who is counting the traffic violations. huh ?

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  132. The same happens in Ecuador where I live. The police went on a strike and not work for a day, at least in Quito (the capital) I walked freely, everything was calm and i didn't get robe even walking at 10pm. So we dont really needs cops to keep peace in our cities. (the riots and chaos occurred the same day were executed by the police, and it was in only one place)

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  133. First of all, they are just petty offenses the NYPD has chosen to discount. They aren't giving minor tickets or arresting people for minor offenses. ANY life threatening situations, drug offenses, or any type of present danger, the NYPD will respond.

    Second, you can't immediately publish an article saying that nothing has happened since the NYPD decided to stop ticketing and making arrests for minor offenses. This just went into effect recently, actually, this week. Someone with any common sense could figure out that if, for example, the police aren't ticketing people for running red lights, then down the road, this will start to take an effect on society.

    Third, the lack of support they received from the Mayor after the two cops were killed was just the straw that broke the camel's back. They feel that they have not received support from him since his election to office.

    Finally, the whole point the NYPD is trying to make is not that NYC needs them to "fight crime", but it is to show that the amount of money the city receives from NYPD doing their jobs and ticketing people (who have committed an offense) and how much the Mayor for example, relies on that income.

    Also, I guess I'm just as confused as the NYPD what you idiots want from them… Do you want stop and frisk, bag checks, tickets and so-called "police brutality" AKA the NYPD doing their jobs for you're safe or do you want to nag and make clearly uninformed remarks about them not doing their job?

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  134. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH THIS MADE MY MORNING! HAHAHAHAHA! NYPD ARE THE PROBLEM, NOT THE CITIZENS ! PROOF!

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  135. Lay off half of the police force, and put a federal BAN on police quotas. Police quotas are the most counter-productive thing that America has ever fucking invented. It literally does nothing but give the police a reason to falsify evidence against us. It's nothing but a blatant example of our government BETTING AGAINST us doing the right thing… And we stand for this? It's pretty much the equivalent of our government saying "Everyone is guilty". I say that laying off half of the force is a brilliant start, but we shouldn't stop there. There are MANY more policies that need to be reversed. The main one being quotas, but then you have the stupid Blue Wall and Code of Silence. Those need to go as well. We need to stop giving the force "extras" for their "hard work". I can walk into my local police HQ and they have a fucking latte machine that they bought with tax payers money. Plain and simple, we need to make officers obey the law, or we can continue to kill them off. It's your choice America.

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  136. People didn't stop breaking the law. The cops just didn't write tickets. Of course numbers will go down… idiot.

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  137. Is nobody else asking where these numbers are coming from? I see a lot of "facts" and no sources. Not to mention making statements like, "For years NYPD has been able to do whatever they want to whomever they want and suffer no consequences," borderlines bullshit. Let's not pretend that all officers have just been doing whatever the hell they want to citizens. While I agree with what the writer is trying to say, this article and could use more sources and less opinion.

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  138. Missing the Big Point here, that their calls for drug arrests, robberies, arsony have all gone down. It isn't because police aren't patrolling the streets, it is because they are only responding to CALLS. People aren't calling because nothing is happening. By observing this, we can see that the NYPD is the cause for more than the majority of its so called arrests, violations, and more

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  139. Maybe because if there are no cops, people wont be tried for the crimes they are doing. Doesnt mean they arent committing the same crimes.

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  140. This will last however long it is till the next pay cycle,and all the OT is missing,they must justify their existence

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  141. Exactly the same could be applied to UK police forces. Here, we're force fed a media diet of right-wing rhetoric, "thin blue line" "would you put your life on the line?" etc. The uncomfortable truth is that here in UK Plod enjoy a safe,well-paid, short 'working' life followed by a taxpayer funded gold plated pension.
    In the past 35 years Plod have become self serving, self perpetuating agents of government who's prime concern is the protection of the powerful and precious. They would not be missed as is the (under reported) evidence in New York.

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  142. I'm on board with the sentiment here (although it's a bit over the top at times), but is it possible crime has gone down because the temperature has gone down?

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  143. Of course traffic violations and petty theft are gonna be down when there's nobody around to acknowledge it…

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  144. The percentage of 911 calls can validate this article. If police officers are not being dispatched by 911, it would mean the crime rate is actually going down.

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  145. Jessy Kimbro Comments on this page are…well amazing.No one would dream of going to say…a deputy Fire Chief and instruct him how to knock down a multi-structure fire-yet..everyone fancy's themselves an authority on police work.Dopes.

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