The Real American Sniper: Why Chris Kyle Wasn’t A Hero

January 21, 2015   |   S.m. Gibson

SM Gibson
January 21, 2015

(ANTIMEDIA) The following words are not meant to spit on the grave of Chris Kyle, but rather address a reality that may be unpleasant for many to hear. Chris Kyle was not a hero. He did not protect America or keep it safe. He killed a lot. He also, apparently, lied a lot as well. Sometimes truth lies beyond the lens of star-spangled glasses and once you have the courage to look beyond a constructed work of fiction, you may realize that the facts do not align with your belief system. It may not be easy, but sometimes the truth is harsh. If we, as a people are genuinely in pursuit of truth and the justice that follows, we must distance ourselves from the warm feelings that certain narratives provide and search objectively without the blinders that provide us comfort.

Kyle’s story takes place in Iraq, his weapon and astute aim followed along with him. The former Navy SEAL and bronco rider was responsible for 160 confirmed deaths – 255 if you include unconfirmed kills – while he was stationed in the land that was once ancient Babylon. How can it be said that a single person he killed was on behalf of protecting the American way of life or its freedoms when Iraq nor its people were ever a threat to either? Kyle was a member of an invading force. To protect someone or something, an outside threat must first be made, otherwise what is labeled as protector is actually an aggressor.

No matter your thoughts surrounding the events on 9/11, one thing that is for certain is that Iraq was not involved. Saddam Hussein never attacked the United States, nor did it appear that he ever had plans to do so. Hussein’s regime, although not innocent of crimes in its own country, was not a threat to the United States or its citizens. And despite the Bush administration’s assertion that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction, they didn’t.

It may be brutal to hear, but the facts dictate that none of the people that Chris Kyle killed were a threat to America, its freedoms, or its way of life.

So who or what was the Texan protecting?

It can be said that Kyle was protecting lives by making the argument that he was providing cover for his fellow soldiers; soldiers that should have never been in harm’s way to begin with. The cover provided to US soldiers should have come in the form of not sending them into a country that posed zero threat to the United States. If the US government actually cared about protecting its citizens, instead of providing snipers to serve as their protectors, it should have shielded them by not sending them onto a battlefield constructed of lies. Thousands of Americans who were sent back to their families with a flag draped over their maimed and lifeless bodies would still be alive today if not for the actions and needless meddling of the US government. While it is very true that Chief Kyle was not to blame for the foreign policy of his employer, he was a cog in its wheel, and more importantly he took pleasure in his duty of senseless death.

American Sniper, the movie based on his words, makes Kyle appear as if he was conflicted by the scores who were killed by his marksmanship. Unfortunately for his legacy, his actual words tell a different story.

“I wondered, how would I feel about killing someone? Now I know. It’s no big deal”

Another quote from Kyle’s book describes his thoughts on the Iraqi people,

“Savage, despicable evil. That’s what we were fighting in Iraq. That’s why a lot of people, myself included, called the enemy ‘savages’…. I only wish I had killed more.”

The sniper also described his chosen profession of killing by saying,

“You do it until there’s no one left to kill. That’s what war is. I loved what I did… I’m not lying or exaggerating to say it was fun.”

Kyle also relays his lack of regret by saying,

“There’s another question people ask a lot: Did it bother you killing so many people in Iraq? I tell them ‘No.’ And I mean it.”

As far as the moral ambiguity that he dealt with, Kyle said

“I have a strong sense of justice. It’s pretty much black-and-white. I don’t see too much gray.”

The last passage from American Sniper that I will list truly demonstrates Kyle’s lack of heroism:

“A teenager, I’d guess about fifteen, sixteen, appeared on the street and squared up with an AK-47 to fire at them. I dropped him. A minute or two later, an Iraqi woman came running up, saw him on the ground, and tore off her clothes. She was obviously his mother. I’d see the families of the insurgents display their grief, tear off clothes, even rub the blood on themselves. If you loved them, I thought, you should have kept them away from the war. You should have kept them from joining the insurgency.”

The insurgency that the sniper is referring to is the local Iraqi insurgency that would have never existed if the United States hadn’t invaded Iraq to begin with. These “insurgents” weren’t making their way overseas to hurt Kyle’s family, so where does his malice towards the child he killed in cold blood come from?

Maybe you’ll choose not to trust that Kyle really believed the words he wrote in his own book, I couldn’t blame you, after all Kyle was caught in multiple lies while he was still alive.

Regardless of whether you approve of Jesse Ventura famously pursuing his lawsuit against Kyle after his death, Ventura did prove in court that Kyle lied about punching him at a Navy SEAL reunion in 2006. The former governor of Minnesota was awarded 1.8 million dollars for Kyle’s tall tale despite being told he would never prove in a court of law that the ghost of an American hero had lied. He did. HarperCollins, the publisher of American Sniper also had to remove the story from future printings of the book.

Another lie that Kyle was caught in was a story he told to D Magazine regarding a supposed run in with two car jackers in 2009. The incident supposedly took place at a gas station somewhere along Highway 67 just south of Dallas, Tx. Kyle claimed that he shot the two men each twice in the chest, killing them both. He never claimed that either man fired a shot at him. The former military man said that he waited on local law enforcement to arrive and once on the scene he gave them a phone number that directed the officers to the Department of Defense. The person on the other end vouched for him and he was sent on his way, according to Kyle. The problem with this story is that despite various publications having attempted to verify Kyle’s account multiple times, there is still not a single shred of evidence that it ever happened.

The real life American Sniper also told a tale about him and a comrade being ordered to New Orleans in the direct aftermath of Hurricane Katrina. The story goes that the two were stationed atop the Superdome. Kyle then proceeded to pick off and kill 30 looters dead in the streets from atop the home of the New Orleans Saints. There is absolutely no evidence to corroborate this narrative either.

Either Chris Kyle was a cold-blooded killer who took it upon himself to be judge, jury, and executioner while killing Americans dead in its streets or he was a liar. Whichever story you choose to believe, one thing is for certain, the real American Sniper was no hero.

Hollywood is a business, and as with the goal of any business, their objective is to generate profit. The movie industry does so through visual story telling. A studio produces films to make you feel a certain way which in turn allows the studios to recoup their expenses and ideally generate a profit. The story of Chris Kyle is no different.

There is nothing wrong with enjoying a film, but don’t fool yourself into thinking that the heroic Chris Kyle portrayed on the silver screen is the same as the real life Chris Kyle. One of them was payed to sway your emotions while the real one was paid to kill those that never ever threatened the rights which allow these type of films to be made in the first place.

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Author: S.m. Gibson

SM Gibson joined Anti-Media in December of 2012. He currently resides in Birmingham, Alabama, where he was born and raised.

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  1. You people obviously don't have a shred of understanding of middle eastern politics or Wahhabi radicalism, nor do you apparently know anything about the aptly named "savages" we're fighting over there…the teenager mentioned was about to open fire on American soldiers – hardly killed in cold blood. Saddam Hussein had a documented history of using chemical weapons on his own people, and then liberals like you say "there were no WMD's" like we knew that from the start, even though countless caches have been found buried that the media constantly ignores. You want to live in a country free of fear but can't stomach what is necessary to ensure that freedom. Move to Canada if you're so ashamed of America.

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  2. Left, Right, or Center, we are all Americans and have a right, under the First Amendment, to speak our piece. My ancestors settled in Texas in 1836. My great great grandfather was on the committee to name Bonham and Fannin County, Texas. Both mine and my wife's ancestors owned slaves and fought for the South in the Civil War. My father was on the Bataan Death March and survived over three years in a Japanese prison camp. My wife's grandfather was in the Meuse Argonne Offensive during WW1. Her father was part of the Red Ball Express during WW2. My stepson served in Iraq. I served during the Viet Nam War. Chris Kyle reflects an attitude that comes straight out of Texas. It's an attitude that I consider to be twisted, or broken, if you will. Why do I feel this way? I feel this way because this attitude, which is so often bragged about by Texans as being a positive thing, a manly thing, a patriotic thing, is, in fact, a self-destructive thing. From the Alamo to Iraq, Texas has exulted in having an attitude of stubborn meanness. That meanness may have helped Texas to survive the harsh conditions of it's birth, but now it only serves to retard Texas from moving forward with the rest of the country. Chris Kyle was raised with guns, the Bible, and an attitude that Texans are more patriotic and godly than the rest of the country, and certainly more godly than the people of Iraq. He went to Iraq with his gun, Bible, and this attitude, which enabled him to kill, without compunction, and with a deep animosity and resentment for the people, not just the enemy, of the country that we were supposed to liberate. In the end, he was broken by the war – a war that was wrong in the first place. In my opinion his wrong attitude and the wrong war that he was engaged in destroyed him, and may, ultimately, destroy all of us. When Chris Kyle was killed by a fellow veteran, with PTSD, whom he was trying to help, the very way that he tried to help is indicative of the flawed attitude that he carried with him to Iraq, brought home from Iraq, and took with him into that shooting range the day he was killed. Kyle thought that with the help of God and a gun, he could heal a veteran whose very illness was the result of guns. No one in their right mind would take a veteran suffering from PTSD into a shooting range. Chris Kyle was twisted when he left Texas with a cross tattooed on one arm and a sniper rifle carried under the other. He was twisted when he killed dozens, with malice, in Iraq. And he was twisted when he came home and took a broken veteran to a shooting range, thinking it would help. Chris Kyle's story is a sad one, and it deserves to be told, but honestly, and not as if he were a hero to be admired or even as a wounded veteran to be sympathized with. Chris Kyle's story should be told as a cautionary one – one that warns us what happens when a country invades another under false pretenses and then turns it's young men into sociopathic killers to validate that invasion. The Iraq War was a terrible mistake, one which the whole world will be paying for, for quite some time. We have created a monster, and now that monster is coming home to roost; and now we must kill that monster in any way we can; but we should never idolize killing, or the men who do that killing for us. Instead we should do what needs to be done, with humility, knowing what damage will be done, and knowing that there is no glory in being a Chris Kyle.

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    • @ James Rogers Bush:

      Thank you for that extremely well-states and insightful post.

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  3. Very well stated.

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  4. I agree. We invaded their country. They were only defending their homes and family. Why our soldiers are made to feel like hero's is part of the brainwashed mind control they train them with. Our freedom is not at risk. I don't know of anywhere in the USA that looks like a war torn region. Our buildings are still standing and the only gun fire that scares most Americans is those from our own police. Its a shame our young men and women need to be subjected to the extreme violence of war, and made to have memories of killing innocent men, women and too often children. Chris Kyle was haunted by images of those exact memories, and the veteran that killed him!!

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  5. Shut the Fuck up America is generally dumb as fuck!!! Obviously yall got ignorance in you too

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  6. Dear Author unless you have served in the Military and been to Iraq then your opinions are just null and void. Just say thank you and shut your filthy cowardly mouth. Be thankful there are men out there that will do things you are not capable of to monsters. If you dont think people who will behead a live human being or send a child to its death with a bomb are not savages then i believe you have some issues to work out for yourself. You know nothing of sacrifice or honor and no heading off to work without your morning latte is not considered sacrifice. There are very evil things that go on on this earth that would make you pee your little designer pants. Be glad there are men that will take on that threat so you dont have to.

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  7. And we all know who the real terrorist of 9/11 were now anyway and it wasn't Osama or Saddam. But they filled them soldiers heads with all kinds of hatred for the region calling them all monsters and they were evil. That is the same propaganda Hitler used to convince the Germans to turn against the Jews. Turn the "enemy" into a subhuman threat, and give them guns.

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  8. Exactly, his OWN people. Absolutely zero threat to America. Hell, monsanto (company that makes chemical weapons like agent orange) is now in chrage of OUR food supply! WTF!? Our food and water is poisin and approved by our own government, so why is no one swooping in to "save" us? What do you think Americans would do if, say China invaded us under the guise of saving or liberating us? Right, thr citizens would attack attack attack. We'd fight and set traps, ambushes and guerrilla tactics similar to the Iraqis, but probably much more gruesome and more effective. Why are we policing the world while our borders are wide open? I have all the reapect in the world for our soldiers past and present, but they are being used to further the agenda of the elite. Patriotism is loving your country, not your government. Its basicly commen knowledge around the world now that we are under the control of the bankers and corperations. Hopefully soon we will start to fight the real enemy.

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  9. Exactly, his OWN people. Absolutely zero threat to America. Hell, monsanto (company that makes chemical weapons like agent orange) is now in chrage of OUR food supply! WTF!? Our food and water is poisin and approved by our own government, so why is no one swooping in to "save" us? What do you think Americans would do if, say China invaded us under the guise of saving or liberating us? Right, thr citizens would attack attack attack. We'd fight and set traps, ambushes and guerrilla tactics similar to the Iraqis, but probably much more gruesome and more effective. Why are we policing the world while our borders are wide open? I have all the reapect in the world for our soldiers past and present, but they are being used to further the agenda of the elite. Patriotism is loving your country, not your government. Its basicly commen knowledge around the world now that we are under the control of the bankers and corperations. Hopefully soon we will start to fight the real enemy.

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  10. I couldn't agree more!!!

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  11. Iraq / Saddam made the mistake of selling oil not in Dollars. Same mistake that Iran is making now. Iraq has unchartered oil fields that might be as big as that of Saudi Arabia. US is an empire. It's currency is pinned against oil (petrodollar). All other currencies are pinned against the dollar. If the dollar fails, so will many USNato allies and the 'western' way of life and global dominance. That is why the US was there, that is why the UK, Germany, Nato allies all behind the scenes support it. Nobody wants another Global depression. And no one wants to see a new emerging Russian or Chinese Empire. Is he a hero? I don't know. All i know is we have a choice of USEURussiaor China controlled globe, and i pick the US. There really can only be one. The age of empires never ended, and global empires started in the 1500s. Currently US dominance is still our best option.

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  12. I think the author of this article should take his family and go live in Iraq for a while. he is welcome to come back, After he has learned a lesson abut living in a a muslim dictatorship or a caliphate. My guess is he will welcome any sniper with open arms if it keeps him and his family from being beheaded, gassed, tortured, traved, or any of the other things that commonly happened under Saddam Hussein. Talk is cheap buddy. My guess is you've been protected your whole life and never appreciated it.welcome

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  13. Sorry, by freedom you mean oil and gas? If the U.S. Wanted stabilisation in Iraq it would of happened. Also America could love free of fear and has no reason to be fearful, America just chooses to be in fear.

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  14. Right 'The media ignores'. Back to your little bubble, let the adults discuss the real world. The 'teen about to open fire' wouldn't have had a target if we weren't there spreading our 'freedom'.

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  15. Freedom of speech. Also there was no threat the U.S. As the author stated. The U.S. Is not a police for the world nor should it be.

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  16. A good number of the weapons they did find in Iraq were defunct weapons the U.S. had actually given them decades ago. You're right; there's no reason to be ashamed.

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  17. Your a brain washed joke those "Wahabis" or "extremist" didn't exist in Iraq until we invaded which gave birth to :extremism" in Iraq for every action expect a reaction the only thing is Islam is a peaceful religion but it also is not a pacifist religion we are allowed to protect our property our wealth our family and yes our religion hhhhmm sounds similar to the founding fathers doesn’t it

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  18. Very, very, well-said James.

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  19. David Ostrowski Again you know nothing of what you speak. Threat or not that is what was asked of this soldier to go there and fight for his country. He did , without a snivel. Just say Thank You and move on …. be mad at your elected officials if you do not agree with the war. Not the soldier that is just doing what he is told to do.

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  20. Don't forget that your beloved Clinton's, John Kerry and many other Dems voted to send troops to Iraq. This was an American decision, not a Bush decision as too often the left seems to overlook. War is ugly and horrific. We train out soldiers to be killers and give them the tools to be successful. While I respect your right to make assertions based opinions and hypotheticals, I believe they do more to illustrate your ignorance and foolishness. Moreover, it is the American soldier that preserves your right to speak your foolishness. It is because of men like Chris Kyle that you have a forum to share your nonsense in an attempt to pursuade low information voters to see the world through your narrow, clouded lenses. It takes a lot pathetic balls to try and defame one's character after he has already passed. However, I'd expect nothing less from your kind. You sir, are a fucking joke!

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  21. Thank you for this honest editorial. I could not have articulated the finer points better.

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  22. Chris kyle is a piece of shit. To say it's fun to kill another is abt. As fucked up as it comes. Yeah he was "doing his duty". Good I commend him for doing what he signed up for. To get enjoyment out of it tho. That's fucked. That's a sign of a sick and twisted individual. Fuck him.

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  23. These colors don't Run…. The World!

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  24. Donnie, I am sorry but I have to disagree. I am not thanking them. They are not heroes and I hate that I have to say that. The ideals that a soldier sign up for I get. But they are not doing that. We are not helping Iraq we are not helping the world. Do you see us in Africa helping out? No of course not. I so wish we were and I would agree completely with you at that point.

    I am not made at the soldiers, but they and we need to wake up and realise the sad truth

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  25. Also I apologise for any spelling mistakes and the fact I am not directly replying to you… My computer is being all messed up :/.

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  26. This is so full of shit .Chris was and is a hero so fuck you and yours

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  27. This is so full of shit .Chris was and is a hero so fuck you and yours

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  28. Angela, *you're. As in obviously you're not much of a scholar either.

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  29. All muslams must die …one way or another….it's them or us…what part do you dumb asses not understand….wake up America

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  30. Iraq is much worse off now than it was before we invaded. I wouldn't advise anyone to go live there. Our country has made a bad situation into a much worse situation…. for all the wrong reasons.

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  31. I take it your reading abilities are about Gr 8 lvl? Go to a school for a while then come back. And if you read the article or understood the points, a better response would have been "I think that we should have Middle eastern Armies and snipers come here, take over America then start shooting anyone who fights back. Then I bet he will welcome the Middle Easterns then"

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  32. James your so full of yourself..and all that bragging on your so called family crap…a man like Chris has better shit in his ass then you and and lol your family…

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  33. The decline of civilization will be carried out by those who are just doing their jobs.

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  34. No one ever likes the ugly side of war. It has to be done and has always been done. Liberals will always cry foul over the ugliness and truth of war. Somebody has to do it to protect our soldiers in the field. Open in case of war was his nametag. Cry, whine, and protest, but these guys have to do their job.

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  35. He done his job. Terrorists attacked America. Not necessarily all of the Iraqi people, but absolutely a large portion aligned themselves with those same terrorists. Maybe we should have sent bloggers like yourself over to explain why it wasn't nice to crash planes into buildings where innocent members of someone's family were working. I'm sure they'd understand you completely. You should thank Chris Kyle you're able to type this article, instead of being skull f***ed by some goat humper.

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  36. Absolutely Angela. Do away with the police and there'd be no violence in the U.S. smh

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  37. Wrong. So gd wrong it hurts.

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  38. It was never about saddam or oil or even weapons of the matter. Before the invasion there was al queda and other terrorist organizations massing in Iraq. For what? A party….maybe Cause the Taliban in Afghanistan was getting there ass handed to them they wanted somewhere else to kill. I did 3 deployments to Iraq with the marine corps. And let me tell you which will probably shock you. While the Iraq nationals didn't want to fight Muslim terrorist organizations from other countries were fighting us. The Iraqis hated them and would come to us for help. Let me tell you fighting a Muslim extremists juiced up on steroids and merhanphetamins is not fun. I didn't want to be there but I did want to be there. And if I could I would go back and help the people I saw who thanked us. I'm grateful for the kindness they showed me. Some of you people assume like your watching reality tv and it's sad. If you want to hear what really happened go to the source or ask people that really were there and helped people.

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  39. It pains me to read this bull shit.

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  40. You have no clue what you are talking about just shut up before more people dont like you

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  41. You need to go get educated. Clearly you know nothing.

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  42. Actually, why don't YOU go live in North Korea or Africa or South America OR…even Somolia? Then ask yourself why the US isn't stopping the genocide that has been going on for decades there? Why is the US just focused on oil producing nations? You're right: talk IS cheap.
    The US isn't interesting in making the world a safer place for all human beings (not that the US should be the worlds Police department anyhow). They are interested in protecting the one main resource that actually makes policy in the US…OIL.
    Don't believe me though. Google Top 10 Dictators of the World and find out how cruel and inhumane OTHER dictators are to their own people and again…ask why we haven't done a THING over to many of those countried…just in oil producing nations.

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  43. You're right about the very evil things in this world one of them being the government. They turn these kids into killing machines and then when it's time for them to come home and try and fit in the government who sent them there turns their backs on them. Tell me where the honor is with that? You're fighting the wrong bad guys buddy we have enough of them in our own government so maybe we should clean our own yard before we worry about every one else's.

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  44. You're an idiot. But you have a right to be an idiot because of us veterans. IDIOT- protected under the U.S Constitution

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  45. Donnie frierson I have served and this article is spot on. So, you shut your filthy nazi face.

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  46. If your neighbors house is on fire you had Bette help him put it out or yours might be next! This is why we invade as you say! And unless you have been in combat you have no opinion! Your ignorance is marvelous!

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  47. Yeah and who do you think sold him those chemical weapons? America did we still have the receipt, only thing Sodom did was use them against his own people instead of who we told him to use them on which was Iran.

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  48. Firstly he was a Chief not a Sgt. Secondly he went where he was told and protected those that did the same. It's fine if you want to blame the Government for going in but to lie and disrespect this American like this is sickening .

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  49. If your the anti media why all the ads. Seems funny for a non biast media source. I love how people wanna enjoy the gifts of freedom yet disagree with the price. A bunch of pussies

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  50. Thats right and when the IMC is dismantled it will be a better day for all. Unrealistic? of course! There are to many Henry Kissinger types out there.

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  51. Where was this article earlier when I was trying to explain this to my "friends". Sometimes people just can't handle the truth bc it challenges too much of their carefully constructed reality. I still think honorably of him for keeping his fellow soldiers safe(er) but agree that we never should have been there in the first place. He drank the Kool-Aid like the rest of my generation and it sucks.

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  52. For the love of God Duncan Swedlo. how old are you, 12!?

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  53. Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11, ya a few of the terriorist came from iraq, okay, so we made a bullshit reason to invade them based on wmds which we knew they didnt have, and saddam even told us he got rid of

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  54. Kenneth Oates Oh how we forget the Iraqi state sponsored assassination attempt on George Bush while he was visiting Kuwait in 1993. That in itself is an Act of War. Even Clinton had to respond with Tomahawks. And your point about China invading us has no merit. Saddam was butchering thousands a year for being Kurd or Shiite. If you can remember, we don't do that. Your comparison is foolish at best.

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  55. He prolly would have been fine before the us destroyed the country that's the whole point!!!

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  56. shut up and get back to work. your oath doesn't allow you to have an opinion.

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  57. Just curious were you ever in Iraq or Afghanistan? In my humble opinion to know what you are talking about you have to experience it first hand which I doubt you have.I have and you sir are dead wrong on so many levels.

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  58. Yo never seen Detroit

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  59. Donnie he didn't have to go kill puerile and he certainly didn't have to enjoy it. He was a piece of shit. Jesse venture is a true grip not this pathetic like of Crap

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  60. 5000 chemical wmd's were found in Iraq in 2014… So I'm not reading any further into this article. But you do have a right to your opinion. No matter how inaccurate I believe them to be.

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  61. Not ashamed of America. Ashamed of the people like you who live here.

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  62. The point being made here is, stop allowing Yourself to be blindly told what to do! Especially, as a HUMAN You are quite capable of innately knowing what is in-humane! Everyone NEEDS to start taking complete responsibility for their thoughts and actions, just because someone or something told You to do it, doesn't absolve You from the consequences of Your actions!!! Wars are founded on Humans blindly being told this and that, and before You know it, there is another story being told of how Earthlings stupidly were run by a handful of sociopaths with a lot of money, and so-called fake power… This narrative is getting extremely OLD!

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  63. Donnie Frierson … thank you for stating what I (& the majority of combat veterans) think. It's amazing how these 'keyboard warriors' can find fault with everyone who stands in harms way to protect their freedoms.

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  64. I understand the point that we didnt need to fight this war and be in Iraq but the legend had no choice, he was a Navy SEAL and if you don't truly know What a Seal does and follows, you have no right to judge, they don't want to claim being a hero, every SEAL hates that word but to all of those marines and fellow SEALs lifes he protected, to them he is a hero, AND if you don't know a snipers heart than don't judge, understand their job and What the consequences are if he doesn't kill that threat, they hold the lifes of many men in their hands, every scout sniper that I have known are cold hearted, and hold the pain of the fallin soldiers they could not protect, Chris Kyle is nowhere different to any soldier, many have takin 100s of lifes, the only difference between them and Chris Kyle was that he was a sniper and not a devil dog… The legend might not be a hero to all but to those he fought and bled with he is, Chris Kyle just did the the job he signed a contract for, no one is a cold blooded killer in war because war itself is filled with evilness and savages.

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  65. If I may, I'd just would like to point out, on a macro-scale (and avoiding the bravado/masculine-measuring that's been going on), the U.S. doesn't have a very good track record when it comes to "nation building" or "liberation." Shit, how long have we been dumping billions upon billions of dollars into countries, such as the ones that are the topic of much of the conversation on this page, in hopes of fostering some sort of democratic republic that (somehow) won't be subject to the corruption that we've seen time and time again? This isn't our first foray in attempting to nation-build, or "spread democracy" – whether it be to oust a a political figure that the US disagrees with and/or to inject a man whom the US/US intelligence/armed forces think to be a better fit. Numerous countries in Central and South America have been on the receiving end of America's attempt to nation-build, and now several in the Middle East. Let us not forget history, gang. Let us not forget the cahoots we were in with Al-Qaeda when the Soviet war in Afghanistan was going on. Before anyone spins anything I said into rhetoric or polarized political propaganda plugging – all I'm saying is that if we keep on foregoing the lessons to be learned from history, we're bound to repeat them exponentially. And it looks like we're on that path.

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  66. Okay, clearly freedom of speech doesn't mean a thing! And I have seen Detroit Mich.and its not war torn its bankrupted. Those buildings have been either neglected or torn down by controlled demolition or vandalism! And I'm the ignorant person here. Amazing. You all who blatantly Disagree with me are nothing more than sheep who do as your told.

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  67. The majority of this article is pointing the finger at the wrong source. 60% of this is complaining about the actions of the United States rather than Kyle. He was doing his job. What he's told and trained to do. Most people have no understanding of why he writes things like "I wish I killed more". The make him out to be a monster. But when the people he's referring to start killing your closest brothers and friends you'd might say the same thing. Either way Chris Kyle did better things for the United States then you people who write these one-sided pile of shit articles.

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  68. The idea of Iraq being no threat to the U.S. is mistaken. There is a good bit of evidence that Saddam was willing and able to supply weapons of various sorts to "people" bent on killing westerners. Clinton said many times that he was a threat to the U.S. and needed to go, so I don't think it is reasonable to call it a mere political agenda. Clinton's CIA chief was the one who made the call re: Saddam having WMD, he was the one with primary responsibility for intel coming from there over a period of years. WMD or not, Saddam was still willing and able to weaponize any group willing to pay. Dealing with these things takes snipers, among other things. The Texan bravado criticized here is probably required to maintain one's sanity if his job is to kill. That's what soldiers are sometimes (often for special forces) required to do. Chris Kyle did not decide who to kill. He killed who he was ordered to kill. If it is predictable that harm is going to be brought, my preference is that we bring it to them first (vs., for example, any of my children being killed).

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  69. You are a fucking piece of shit. You don't "protect America." You protect America interests. You're just to stupid to realize you are a paid killer with a low IQ, serving CEOs worth billions of dollars who couldn't care less about your cheap life.

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  70. Yeah I'm sorry. Your comparing apples to peaches. Unless your put in a position where you are doing an act that you know will actually keep someone safe, you will never know. If you never have been in the military , you will never know. If I had a choice between someone blowing me up or others around me, that person would be smoke checked. Most who post their comments come from a place where they think the world is a rosy place or should be. Sacrifice means picking organic produce because you think its earth friendly. Most are a world apart from reality. There is evil in the world, some just choose to meet it the best they can, while the rest are "observers" and "critics".

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  71. Excellent comment James Rogers Bush, you have nailed it….time for all to listen to what you have just said……we need help….we need to adjust our thinking….God bless u bro.

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  72. That's a oxymoron statement, kind of like let's go to War for Peace! This is a dead topic, as there are many of us that do not choose to live in the past anymore. I admit, I would not go to war, because I ABHOR pointless killing! Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results! Fortunately, many of us keyboard warriors are understanding this fallacy that history has taught us…

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  73. I'm just going to go ahead and say the writer has never lost anyone in the military or isn't close to anyone who did lose someone while in country. Because I can promise you, after losing 18 people in a one year long deployment, meeting countless family members- seeing children grow up without their fathers, parents burying their children, and wives celebrating birthdays, anniversaries, and milestone in a cemetery – the words 'not a hero' would NEVER be uttered or typed or thought.
    I've read the book, I've seen the movie, I've read all about his lawsuits, and his interviews and even seen many his wife, Taya, was in herself – and this whole article is mainly an argument about how shitty and unnecessary the war was, not how Chris was or was not a hero. All the claims that he isn't all point back to why we were there in the first place – and the stance many soldiers I know and I'm pretty sure it's even a line in the movie – would you rather have more evil & heartless people invading america and doing this to your family? Because they're doing it to their neighbors – what do you think they'd do if they came over here?
    So if you think for a second that any of the men and women who have paid it all, a price you nor I have been asked to pay, for people they've never met – then I'd say rather than spending all this time writing an article about how he's not a hero in your eyes – you say thank you, bc that REAL AMERICAN HERO, as well as many others- protected the right for you to say some ignorant shit like that!

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  74. We need more Chris Kyles in America!!!

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  75. Still a hero in my book.. M

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  76. They provided a safe haven for terrorists and Islamic extremist. The desire to kill people because they're not Muslim is pretty massively destructive in itself. (Wmd)

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  77. Our government sold him those chemical weapons but that was too help him fight the war with Iran who we don't like.

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  78. Austin there are around 30 countries in the world that have the same system as us but they aren't fighting in any wars and are not being threatened either. You have been brainwashed buddy, time to wake up.

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  79. SM Gibson is an uninformed moron. Chris Kyle served his country with honor and distinction so sorry sacks of crap like you have freedom to write

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  80. Detroit is war torn than you think. Different type of war yes but still. Years of democratic control has left the city a pit. Plenty of gun fire and killing, and no it's not from the police.

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  81. You guys are idiots. For one we invaded their country to put a end to there evil ways. And if you think putting a gun to a kids head, or putting explosives in a kids backpack is just protecting there family you are obviously terribly mislead to why we went to war. And also saying anything disrespectful about our troops or others who have fought for the military deserve to be kicked out of the country because you obviously are not a true American who understands our freedom or courage. Anyone in the military deserves more respect than any of you people calling kris kyle a coward. If any of you ever talk like that in front of me I will beat the sh*t out of any you disrespectful traiters to our country

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  82. Iraq was no threat to the US for many reasons that Islamic terrorists though local do not pose worldwide threats. 1)Geographical barriers. There are two oceans separating us from Iraq. 2)Logistics and manpower. Iraq does not have either or did not have either to pose a full scale threat. Not to mention it would have been foolish. As for terrorists most terror attacks occur by the acts of lone wolfs or small groups of individuals something that military action is not preventing today.
    As for Kyle the fact that he ENJOYED killing is itself no heroic trait.

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  83. A Bush, from Texas, that isn't an ass hat? It's about time!!!

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  84. It was proven they did not. In addition most terrorists support their views with both radical Islam and the idea that Westerners are trying to eliminate it by meddling in their countries and slaughtering their families and friends. The invasion of Iraq through more gas on the flame instead of dousing the fire.

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  85. A dictator who attacked innocent people with chemical weapons we were there for a good reason to kill them evil savages

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  86. First off Muslims are not exclusive to one country no more than Christians are exclusive to America. And second morality is not black and white. There is more to conflict than such complexity and viewing it as a simply battle against morality simply leads to more conflict.

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  87. The fact that you keep saying we should just shut up and thank him for doing what he was told is exactly the point of all these people. You sound like a drone that would do whatever your leaders say, no matter how wrong it is. Oh, and your government does the same shit, they just have better PR agents. You're what's wrong with the world, but your too stupid to see it. "Freedom of speech" y'all

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  88. Jeff Kocher- I believe that is accurate. At the same time, that is not what was done with them. Whether sold to third parties or what have you, the same weapons were found, and used in Syria. Either way, they in fact existed, and for a "journalist" to ignore facts is not the best way to get a point across. In my opinion, completely kills any and all credibility.

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  89. What about the sources for the other news reports? What about verifiable facts? Any of us can spout opinions and try to sell them as facts but the truth prevails for those willing to see it. The book Chris Kyle wrote is just one source from which no entry was properly even cited for readers to do independent verification and not just be swayed by emotions and become pawns for other people's agendas.

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  90. What about the sources for the other news reports? What about verifiable facts? Any of us can spout opinions and try to sell them as facts but the truth prevails for those willing to see it. The book Chris Kyle wrote is just one source from which no entry was properly even cited for readers to do independent verification . Which is absolutely necessary or this is just all a high school game of popularity and he said/she said. We should all take the opportunity to look at the evidence and facts so we are not swayed by emotions and become pawns for other people's agendas.

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  91. Harry Piekema ~protect our freedoms…like, freedom of speech for example?

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  92. David Ostrowski If part of America is not out there helping Africa, then what do you call the Citizens of teh United States who contracted Ebola while tehy were out there trying to help the citizens of Africa. You might say, "Oh, but t hose people might/might not have beenmemebers of that military force that went into Iraq" I"m not sure if some of them were, but the thing is that soldiers are citizens of the United States, a far higher station in this Nation in my opinion, who have been tasked by the Government in the interest of teh People to engage what is percieved to be a threat to the People of the United Sates, and the common good of the Nation as a whole.

    You will say, "but there was never any threat.", and I would say that we do not percieve that there was ever any threat now, but we did not percieve that then, and when we went into that country it was in light of the fact that someone caused 9/11 to happen. In light of the events of that time, who were we expected to suspect? Especially when we had evidence that aluded to the probability that it could very well have been Iraqi forces.

    And even if the US wasn't in danger, I still remember the Family Guy episode about the classroom where every student was a different country, and one of the students whose desk was Germany was Adolf Hitler, and he was killing other students and taking their desks for himself. America? He was a fat boy who leaned back with his smoothie and said, "Not my problem." until HItler knocked his smoothie over, and then he got involved.

    That is what America has been in the past. And here's the thing, if somebody outside our home is killing people, do you know what you do. You grab your .308, and you blow his fucking head off before he shoots another person. If there is a country outside our borders BUTCHERING its own citizens, who is it right to sit back and let them do that, or to opress their own people and become a dictatorial bourgeouiss, while their citizens are incapable of revolutionizing or freeing themselves from thier draconian regime? Even if the regime in power in Iraq was not a danger to us, they were a danger to thier own citizens, and they were using CHILDREN as cannon fodder when we stepped in to stop them. That alone should constitute a moral high ground. If you are in that country then to stop a countries leaders from living off the blood and oppression and killing of its citizens, and a child comes up to you with an AK47 and intends to shoot you for the sake of an unlawful military/political force/government, are you going to decide it is a moral imperative that you do not defend yourself from the child that wants to put a bullet in your head? Are you going to be that thick?

    Lets also ignore the fact that all those imbeciles out there still saying the Weapons of Mass Destruction never existed are IGNORING the FACT that just last year, we learned the Weapons of Mass Destruction that everyone says do not exist, came into the possession of ISIS when tehy took to the Al Muthanni Chemical weapons facility that was Saddham Hussein's primary factory in the creation of chemical weapons of mass destruction. Now they have a facility, the materials left behind by Hussein, and all that they need to start making more. And know what you have, friend? Egg on your face. 🙂

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  93. David Ostrowski, why don't you and the others that say we were not in danger do a little research. We have been increasing attacked, both here and over seas, by terrorists. These terrorists were (are) allowed safe haven in the countries we have been fighting with. The problem is we are now letting social media and bias idiots loose to spread false commentary instead of facts. Oh, and about the WMDs…have you not seen any of the declassified documents? Did you not see the thousands killed by chemical weapons? WMDs were there…question is who has them now.

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  94. Randy Fox, because they didn't blatantly attack Americans and provide safe havens. And as far as oil goes, a little research will show you just how little we rely on OPEC's oil reserves. Google terrorist attacks on Americans and you'll see the progression from military to civilian targets and over seas to on our soil…starting in the mid 80s.

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  95. Joseph Johnson I can no longer verify it because it was years ago, but my father was in the military. He never got to be sent out to war, but worked in Hawaii doing the Office work as, like, a Manager or something, and sometimes he'd get over inTaiwan or something while my mom, sister, and I stayed in Hawaii in the Military housing. My mom and him were friends with a lady whose husband was in Iraq. He sent her pictures of weapons of mass destruction telling her to keep the pictures because the WMDs were there, but were being moved out. I was in the 1st Grade, give or take, at the time. It was so long ago, and when we moved from Hawaii we lost contact with everyone we knew in Hawaii, so I'm not one to spread that around because I don't like telling stories unless I can at least provide some source or article to back me up or something, but that happened. I figured that was somewhat pertinent to what you are saying here.

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  96. Joseph Johnson And iif you read my comment above yours, it features an article from this last year showing that ISIS either has the WMDs, or the main lab used by Saddham Huseiin to make them, and the resources to make more.

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  97. You say any journalist? Well I hope you don't get your information from and American news stations cause they are all owned by the same people who profit from these wars or at least their contributors.

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  98. Interesting. I watched the movie erlier today. I wanna know more about the guy that killed him

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  99. Well only a idiot would think he wasn't saving lives then the 300,000 + christians that Sadam slaughtered in his own country. Wait. Exterminated!!! Isn't that tyranny… Last I checked and the lives Sgt. Kyle saved were american soldiers in action in Afghanistan . I guess it was ok for you retards for the Al Queada to slam airplanes into the pentagon and WTC… Everyone does have a right to his/her opinion. Even though the moron who wrote this doesn't understand a theread of what freedom costs really means!!!

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  100. So terrorists can't make it to the U.S.? Saddam would not have armed them (for money of course)? You are mistaken if your answer is no to either. What gives you the idea that he GENERALLY enjoyed killing as seems to be frequently implied in this thread?

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  101. I'm sorry.. and you do have an idea about Middle Eastern politics and Wahabi 'radicalism'?? Please explain your non-Wikipedia searched thoughts on 'Wahabis'

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  102. Btw I am no way justifying what George bush did to lie to the American people. I am however standing up for 1 fellow veteran from another. Nothing short of HERO

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  103. You totally miss the point..Kyle was defending his comrades in arms in a theater of war. And that is the best anyone can do under those circumstances. God bless his soul, and God bless the USA.

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  104. Tough truths to face for many Americans, but as a former soldier who has laid men to rest in the Land Between the Rivers and ever since contemplated the reason those men lost their lives (and not me), there is more to the story than the author portrays.

    It's been nearly 8 years since I last set foot in Iraq, and for the majority of those years I struggled with the fact that the only reason those men died is because it was either them or us. You see, it's easy for the media to depict soldiers as blood-thirsty heathens out on a conquest to prove their mettle or earn medals. That's far too convenient a story. Regardless of the reasoning for invading Iraq, we soldiers risked our lives obeying our commander-in-chief and the officers appointed over us, for a purpose we believed (at least most of us did) was for the greater good and for the preservation of liberty. I'd invite you to re-read some of the headlines leading up to the invasion – you will quickly see that it was, for most, the logical stance to take at the time with the information we had available.

    We were sent to a foreign country to take control, disband the armed forces, and search for WMD. Needless to say, there were millions of people who didn't want us there, and many people who were unemployed or otherwise had their livelihoods impacted by our presence. Go figure, an insurgency transpired.

    This is where it begins to get hairy. The beginnings of Al Qaeda in Iraq (AQI) sprung up in 2004. 9/11 changed everything, as they say, and at that point in time al Qaeda was the greatest evil known to mankind…at least in some peoples' eyes. By 2004 the soldiers who killed in Iraq were fighting against evil. It doesn't matter how it started or how unnecessary of a war it was, you can't just claim someone's actions unheroic because of false pretense.

    I joined the Army right after the 1 year anniversary of 9/11, and that was not a coincidence. As a 17yr old kid who, one year prior, was sitting in class one day watching this group of terrorists on CNN kill thousands of innocent people, you better believe I joined to protect the innocent. Not just my countrymen. I wasn't very patriotic at the time, but I knew it was wrong to kill innocent people. I wanted to do something about it.

    I fought for the innocent. And I protected innocent Iraqis

    I witnessed families who were threatened or murdered or worse (there are worse things than death) by AQI, and that makes it easier to take a human life when you know what horrible things they've done to others. I've found my fellow soldiers' mutilated bodies (DUSTWUN Yusufiyah) and seen other acts that could have been committed only by someone who was a true sociopath, not merely someone acting in self defense.

    I've been a part of a brotherhood unlike anything I ever experienced as a civilian, and without hesitation, risked my life to protect that of my friends. To me, that is heroism.

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  105. Stupid liberal idiots! He was there doing his job. Protecting his brothers. Nothing else. Quit drinking the kool aid and open ur freakin eyes.

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  106. I agree that we should not have been there, but as his duty, he was sent there and did what he had to do. He had to protect his own over there. Bf yes, I believe these people over there shouldn't send their kids into the streets with weaponry and then cry when they get killed. I do believe what he did was protect his own as he was instructed. He did not call up our president and ask for war but he nobly did his job which did result in many deaths, however he saved many of our own.

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  107. The direct quotes from his book say a lot about his character. Anyone that takes pleasure in killing a person is sick and twisted. Sorry but he is not a hero, he was a brain washed american

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  108. After SM Gibson referred to the late Chris Kyle as a Sergeant I lost MUCH interest in this article.

    What an ignorant person SM Gibson was to refer to him as that.

    As he never was a Sergeant. Because he never had the opportunity to be one. He was in the US NAVY. They don't have the rank of Sergeant. He was a Chief Petty Officer.
    Good job for losing what small creditability you had SM Gibson.

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  109. Wasn't his choice to invade. He was protecting Americans.. And his brother next to him. So he is a hero. Get a grip on life. And grow up. He saved american soldiers. In his eyes it was a job. In the ppl he saved.. He was a hero..

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  110. Who ever this author is must not be an American this man put his life on the line for his country and his fellow soldiers so how is that not a hero.. The author should blow his head off

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  111. Jeff the solution is simple move to one of those 30 countries. There is nothing pretty about war but it's the reason everyone wants to live here. And immigration is even at a high point during our financial crisis.

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  112. The insurgency that this article claims was created by the United States has been in the middle east much longer than we have been there. The extremists have always created an insurgency

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  113. The bullshit site never even sites its sources I can believe I'm feeding into this.

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  114. The U.S. is no saint in all of this. We have stirred the hornets nest for decades upon decades. Example: In the 1950's the CIA lead a coup in Iran to overthrow a democratically elected Prime Minister and install a puppet that would be much more conducive to their agenda. The goal of the coup was to elevate the strength of Shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi and appoint a new prime minister — Gen. Fazlollah Zahedi.. in order to stop the plan to nationalize oil production. Iran finally took back their country in the revolution of 1979 after a brutal police state had been in power for decades. This was much to the disdain of the U.S. and allied power elite. If you look at the list of countries that we have invaded such as Iraq and Libya…. those countries dared to start trading oil in denominations other than the U.S. petrodollar. These wars that our country becomes involved in for strategic and financial power grabs have no nobel cause. To get an idea of how corrupt and slanted our intelligence agencies are just look into the interviews with Sibel Edmonds on operation Gladio. Our country allows so called terrorists safe haven and travel throughout many countries. Do you not know even the most basic things such as our country financing and arming Al Qaeda etc. to fight proxy wars such as in Syria to overthrow Assad? Presidents like Eisenhower and Kennedy tried to warn about the dangers of the Military Industrial Complex… and they were dead on. Entities such as the Federal Reserve and the Military Industrial Complex have this country on a path similar to ancient Rome. What would be the reaction of the the people in this country if someone attacked us based on false pretenses?? Would it be to sit back and allow it to happen? I think not… people would be fighting back. Not everyone in third world countries are terrorists, granted there are some, but everyone that fights back against the illegally invading U.S. is automatically labeled a terrorist. The longer U.S. policy is to invade and bomb Sovereign countries…. the more blowback there will be (retaliation to our unwarranted invasions). Our policy breeds terrorists. Imagine being the victim of J.S.O.C. special forces. You are spending time in your impoverished hut with dirt floors minding your own business when your whole family is killed because there was shady intelligence that a militant may have been in the area. Would you love the U.S. after this? These raid scenarios have happened by the thousands in many foreign countries just in the last several years. I take pride in being from this country, but have no love for the shady figures that are running things amongst the shadows. I suggest watching the documentary "Dirty Wars". The problem is that too many Americans are blinded by ignorance, blind patriotism and the twisted media. True patriot numbers are growing in this country, although still the minority. More people need to wake up and see what is happening right beneath their noses. True patriots are willing to do research and critical thinking and try to make truth be known…. no matter the cost.

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  115. As a former Soldier I couldn't be more disappointed in this article. Yes kids, mom's and dad's have died since the war so called started. The point I want to make is that the Iraq people did not want us there. They found many ways of trying to kill us. You have no idea how hard it was over there. A lot of the times while out on missions you never knew if a child or he's mother was a suicide bomber until it was to later in some cases. So I don't want to hear how this man killed kids, moms and so fortj just be killing when in fact they where and still are killing us.

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  116. When a soldier is sent to fight in a war he/she is doing his/her job (duty). The reasons for the declaration are unrelated because soldiers have no control over where or why they are sent during times of conflict. Period.

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  117. The soldier doesn't decide whether or not the war is justified. He/she does the job that they've signed up to do. Whether or not American soldiers had a good reason to be in Iraq, Kyle's job was to protect them and he did that well. That is why he was commended. If we're going to demonize our "heroes" because they weren't perfect people, I can think of a few civil rights "heroes" who need to be called out for marital infidelities and lies.

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  118. "payed"? Nice grammar. And you call yourself a journalist?
    You start your article out by saying you're not spitting on his grave and then proceed to piss on it.
    Have you ever heard of Al-Quida? Did you know that the majority of adult military age males were actually from other countries such as Syria coming to fight the Americans?
    Your shoddy journalism is yellow. He covered and protected many American soldiers and saved their lives daily. He joined the Navy Seals for the right reasons and fought the bad guys on their turf so that it wasn't possible for them to come to ours. Your facts are not facts but smears of injustice on this American Hero. Shame on you.

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  119. Honestly you all sound like a bunch of Fucking pussys to me! If you want to defend another country then get you're Fucking worthless asses over their and do america a favor! You ungrateful pieces of shit! Bashing on veterans because they did what they had to do? They were saving our asses and allowing us to live the life we love to live! Learn some respect and appreciation for the ones who gave so much just so you could live to talk shit about them!

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  120. Well, I just decided to stop following this idiotic site. You should thank God for HEROES like Chris Kyle because whether their cause was just or not, soldiers follow orders. You want to complain? Complain about the corrupt system that put him in that position or better yet just say thanks for your courage and shut the hell up. An argument could be made about the justification of any war, any kill, or any decision that every soldier throughout history has participated in. Take a good look in the mirror. What the hell have you done that makes you so special that you feel the need to turn a soldier into villain by exposing what you perceive as character flaws? If you were in a war, who would you want watching over you, making sure you made it home to see your loved ones? Give me Chris Kyle seven days a week.

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  121. I read through a few of the comments on this page. It's amazing, thanks to a lying-ass liberal media creating a mass of ignorant people who do not know, the US was responding as provided for by UN Resolution 1441 authorizing enforcement of prior resolutions 687 and 787 and a US Congress resolution authorizing force in Iraq.

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  122. He said he did it to protect his fellow marines. Iraq did have weapons, maybe not nuclear but they had alot big ass bombs. Kyle was a drinker, lots of alcoholics lie in an attempt to cope. I'm 100% behind Chris and his family & fuck you for publicly plastering this all over the internet, I understand you want people to hear the truth, but understand that it is only the truth as you see it. In short who are you to judge something you didn't witness.

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  123. bother wasting money I a film that's glorifying a serial killer. the largest I history. how can you show sorry for a Mac who invades another person's counter Ann's in the midst of his wrongdoing, he decides to kill hundreds of people fighting for their homes, culture, community and families.

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  124. Someone should fucking kill you for this article. Free speech for you right there… He kept people like my brother, or in later years, my grandfather safe.

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  125. What kind of sad, ignorant piece of shit would actually take the time to sit down and write such verbal diarrhea? The sad part is that there are going to be equally sad people absorbing this shit as factual information. Shame on all you commie fucks.

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  126. What defines a hero? Who can be the one to cast judgement on who the hero is? As I saw the title of this article I cringed. I read his book and every male in my family has served. I love this guy. My major offence to this is how a man following orders is now not a hero. War is hell, we get it , but sometimes hell is what is required even if only to appreciate heaven that much more. A hero is someone who places another life above there own period. Though sometimes the situation is fucked up, and hindsight is always 20 20. I am a new father and now his hero because I would endure pain of inconceivable measure to keep him safe. Sounds to me that Chris kyle was the kind of man that would lay down his life or take one to keep his brothers safe. Good enough for me. If one thing in history is truth, it is the corruption of the human element. No government no army no system will ever be perfect due to the human element. Hell as much as I want to be a perfect father, I can't be I'm human. All I can do is what I think is right even vwhen it might be wrong. I can apologise later and try again. Thank you to the people in this world willing to take the breath from another to ensure the right ones still breathe. Right or wrong thank you heroes. Don't let the pussies of the world make you doubt your honor . save them too, that's also what defines a hero.

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  127. You know it's kinda sad, I'm reading some of these comments and I'm shocked. You know this isn't exactly the same way it happened back in the 70's but I'm reading a lot of comments about our soldiers being cold blooded killers kinda like how the Vietnam veterans were treated. Ya we can single out Chris Kyle because he wrote a book and they made a movie about it. But think about it this way every single person that went over there and fired shots most likely killed someone. So if what your saying is true then all veterans are cold blooded murderers. Which is an complete asshole way of thinking. You think we had a choice? If we don't shoot first then we die or the guy next to us dies. You singled out some of the raunchy details of his book which I consider out of context. Your article title reads why he wasn't a real American hero, your text suggest why he is a piece of crap. You also state that we were an invading force, ok let me put it to you this way. How would you feel about a war on American soil? Because every war we have been in we take the fight to them! Ya there were no WMDS in Iraq chemical weapons maybe. Did we have a clear reason to invade Iraq at the time we thought we did, it's was a start. The people we are fighting do not belong to a country they are rebel extremists who truly believe that if you don't believe in their Religion then you deserve to die. It's that simple. That's what we are fighting. We don't capture them and cut there heads off on video in the name of religion, but they clearly do! Do you really want them here doing that? We are not world police, other countries hates us for that at the same time expect us to do something. We are seen as the free world. In my deployments I have met hundreds of people that have never been to America and when they talk about it it's very inaccurate, that being said if you have never been there and experienced that then how can you be accurate? Your web page is stupid by the way. You call your self anti media… So what are you classifies as? Oh wait media…

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  128. Spoken like a true asshole. WMD's were found in Iraq . Chief Chris Kyle defended soldiers and marines that protect this country so idiots like you can spew this God awful shit. If you can do better, enlist, grab a rifle and stand a post. Or keep you Michael moore worshipping, donut eating, valor stealing, zit faced, fat ass behind the keyboard jerking off to ferinheit 911 and stfu.

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  129. You people make me sick,I have family who served in both the Army and Marine Corps and the author of this and all the others who probably never been in combat just pissed all over what America stands for!

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  130. I am deeply troubled by this line of thinking and shows clear ignorance and sense of entitlement and faux superiority. Walk a mile in another's moccasins. He was there at the request of the government, he died trying to help others who were deeply troubled by what the horror, violence and death of war does to ones spirit and soul. We were over there fighting to keep ideologies like ISIS from coming to the states (and all that work has been undone in the last 6 years). Those who commit such atrocities and have no remorse or horror in their souls over acts of great evil are the ones who should be vilified. It is my personal prayer that those who are truly mean spirited have that truth delivered to them as personally and as coldly as the postings here. I guess there is more than one way to look at something. I am pretty sure I know which one is right and honorable.

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  131. Bullshit! Either kill or be killed its war you get use to that life style and you want to look out for your brothers. thats why rough men such as special forces or any branch of the military do tough shit so ppl could sleep peacefully at night and these are savages and dogs like them get put down. I still see cris kyle as a hero and every man and woman that serve and plus i want to ask have they been there to witness all these false accusations which i doubt because its highly classified shit. And do they know whats it like in the battlefield? Probably not so i solute our brave soldiers

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  132. Just goes to show how brainwashed most people are. The government and there evil tools of puppetry and slavery. The evil media monster that can instantly brainwash u into believing anything they want you to believe. Movies, entertainment, fast food, makes everyone focus more attention on the satisfaction of now rather then the long run of our health. Sports and entertainment, movies etc we like to believe things in movies are real when they couldn't be more further from the truth. Sports devides everyone into groups that hate other groups with a passion. This is the way they like to control us because at the end of the day it pays to have a war the reserve bank loans out to both sides of the war at high interest and once they start building all those tanks jets missiles etc they have to use them. This arguement could go on for years and while everyone's debating about it with devided opinions and nothing but brainwashed comments getting absolutely nothing done while the government sits with the devil behind them with an absolute big grin on his face. Open your eyes people it's bigger then Texas and Chris Kyle. The whole world was built on big fat lies.

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  133. Have you been over there….do you know what it's like? Just because some idiots in government wanna fight a war that's not ours doesn't mean that him going there and protecting himself as well as well as America makes him any less of a hero. At least he has the balls to be part of our military and I'd venture to say that you who wrote this article never joined the service at all. All those government leaders in the middle east wouldn't hesitate to bring that war over here….I'm sure no one wants that so stop bashing the people who protect us from having that war on our soil. Chris Kyle is a hero, he died protecting our freedom which is more then I can say for you who judge without knowing what it's like and how many of those people come back with ptsd and are never the same.

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  134. Here's what I don't understand. You people sleep nicely under the blanket of protection this man and others provide. What you don't realize is that the minute our military vanished, country's would flock to fuck us up with a quickness and the very same people that are talking shit would just give up. Why because they don't have the balls to serve, just talk shit. Our active military presence around the world keeps terrorist and others at bay that otherwise, if our military were to vanish these fuckers wouldn't hesitate kill you and take over our country. So yea, I laugh at all you ignorant ass holes because, keep believing that the world is this peaceful fucking place you can prance around without a care in the world. So say what you want about them. Say what you want about me. I don't fucking care you know why? because people like Chris Kyle and other make this possible for you. If you don't like it guess what I gives a fuck, go kill yourselves for all I care.

    PS. I dare you chicken shit pussies to serve before you talk about the military like you know about it.

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  135. Listen, how much i hate kyle personaly, how twisted he was and what an lyin jerk he was, he was still a hero. But he was no a hero for doing something good, he was a hero for ruining him self in the name of others, same goes with his family. He was not a hero because he killed lot of people, but because he was viktim of his people, which sent him there in the first place. He was a hero, like any one who ever/endured opression.
    If you send a person out in to war, that person will allways be a hero, like the one who loses their right to live, their limbs, their sences, their mind and the one who in griefe morns their loved ones.
    I know kyle and many others made their choice, but if you would ask them if they wanted to ruine their own boddy, ruine their own mind, take away their ability to value life, ruine the life for strangers or ruine the life for their own loved ones, the greate majority of the would answer no most of the time. But if you fill them with ilusions of glory, the view that they are fighting evil, that war is just a game, that war is cool and/or even offer money for their service, you will be able make people do everything above

    Kyle was not a hero because of what he have done, but because of what he become.
    There is a huge problem when people takes away the value of peoples sacrifices. Many people do not go to war because they think they are doing anything else but a service for the people that sent them there in the first place. So to blame, to dihumanize, to ignore or even not evaluate the sacrifice a soldier have made for you, is a inhumane thing to do. If we can't see this, it will be the Vietnam war all over again.

    Sorry for my bad grammar/spelling and thanks for reading, peace.

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  136. I agree with everything you stated James Rogers Bush, with the exception of the Iraqi war being a mistake. It wasn't. It was a blatant lie and subversive action by president W and the powers that be.
    Rik Lasater USMC ret.

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  137. This fool is blaming soldiers for US policy? Here's a news flash dumb dumb, soldiers carry out orders in behalf of service to their country. They don't make policy. They find a way inside their minds to do really hard things, like killing people. Yeah, snipers kill, it's the job they do, they don't fire warning shots. Like Kyle or not, he went and did his job, WELL, because we asked him to.

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  138. This article is so bullshit! Why Chris was there has no relevance to his killings. He was put there by the government but once there, what would you like him to do? Stand in the streets and get shot? Get mutilated? Watch his "brothers and sisters" get killed? The kills he made were for his and fellow soldiers safety at that point. Once he was there it is a war, there was shit happening that most of us couldn't imagine seeing or hearing. Chris had no choice in the matter and he did a fucking great job at protecting himself and fellow soldiers. Blame the government for a false war or what have you but don't lay one once of blame on the soldiers put in a position to kill or be killed!

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  139. These servicemembers defend all rights including freedom of speech then you turn around and use it to stab him in the back. You said we shouldn't have been over there because there was no threat. So we should just wait for there to be another attack? We should wait for more Americans to die before going to fight this evil? Have you ever served a day in the military in your life? No? You just sit back in this wonderful country oblivious to what is really going on in the world. You pretend evil doesn't exist, yet how many times have you left the country? Europe doesn't count. Chris Kyle was a hero because be protected his brothers. Chris Kyle was a hero because he helped his brothers with PTSD. Chris Kyle was a hero because he made sacrifices for Americans he didn't even know like you. When you are dealing with classified info you might have to tell a lot of lies. You are taking a 2D picture and applying it to a 3D situation. You take 2D quotes and apply them to a 3D person. I served in Afghanistan and we killed a lot of bad guys. I don't regret it at all. They were bad people. You wouldn't know anything about that though because you've never been there.

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  140. To a soldier, the politics do not matter, no soldier, marine, sailor, or airmen prioritize the political agenda. Once there, the only thing that matters is being there to watch the back of the guy next to you. He was a hero to every person that was threatened by the individual down range of his scope.

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  141. To the Author: WHY and let me ask this again, WHY do you CARE soooo much what people think? Does it matter if some think he's a hero and others, yourself included do not that you would write a full article trying to discredit him, the war, spread your opinion on things, etc? So again, WHY do you CARE sooooo much of what other peoples opinions are about ANYTHING???? Here's my opinion….YOU HAVE NO LIFE! Your life is sooo shallow that you can only feel important writing long blogs and articles to spread YOUR opinion and try and sway everyone to your side of understanding. I personally DO NOT CARE what you think, believe, etc….Anyone that has a different opinion than mine…guess what, I DO NOT CARE!!!! Here's the difference, I have a life! I don't need to write articles and blogs arguing unimportant things based on OPINION just to reach a level of self importance that is just a fantasy in my head. You don't think Chris is a hero….wait for it…hold short, I DON'T CARE! Some others think he is a hero…wait for it, here it is; I DON'T CARE!!!! I don't need to live in a false reality where I treat my opinions like facts and try to sway the people to think like me…..I believe everyone is in titled to their OWN opinions and sadly this world has started CARING too much about other peoples' opinions…..people need to keep their OPINIONS to themselves! Simply put….it doesn't matter what your opinion is, there's no point in arguing it, and in the end we all have to stand before our creator and answer for guess who….OURSELF and NO ONE ELSE!!!!! Not even sure why I read this or worse…..why I wrote a comment. Just getting SICK of everyone arguing so much over OPINIONS!!!!! When I was in school we used to say…OPINIONS are like BUTTHOLES, EVERYONE has one and some stink……your opinion of Chris and some little twisted facts you dug up means NOTHING. It doesn't matter if people think he's a hero or not…..How about you get a LIFE and put your ENERGY into more important things??? Poeple need to get OFF the internet and have a LIFE again….that's the problem with this world, the internet give people a false sense of HAVING A LIFE!

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  142. To who wrote this opinion piece. I'll say this, you're entitled to your own opinion. NOT your own fact. As for Iraq not being a threat to the US at the time. You are wrong there. You can bet your ass there were chemical weapons there. There have been numerous articles and Intel report summaries on this that at are all available to the general public via the internet….but hey if that's not enough for you go talk to the hundreds of soldiers or Marines who are in treatment for exposure to chemical agents. Let me know how that goes.

    Secondly, you're using the opinion of "we shouldn't have been over there" as a basis for argument against Chris Kyle. It does not change the fact that he saved many lives. Being s sniper is more than just shooting the enemy…they are eyes and ears for combatant commanders and have a wide array of skills that I'm not going to get into right now. Not only that, but upon coming home and facing his own demons, he found catharsis on helping other wounded veterans…which speaks volumes of his character. I can guarentee if he were alive today, he would be more than happy to ta tactfully remind you and anyone else who had a problem with what he did over there, why it was important. And I'm sure he'd have all his ducks in a row unlike the author of this op ed piece.

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